Backwoods Highmark Spindles

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Does anyone have any info (experience) with these spindles and suspension set up ? If so how did they perform/ Compared to others ie Iceage bar code?

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Very interesting. Look lighter than ice age. Wonder how strong they are. One thing I'd like to know is if they steer lighter than ice age. Cause Ice age steers harder than stock. Have been thinking of trying to find a solution to extend the tie rod mounting point on my ice age spindles...
 

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I’d like to see a weight on them compared to stick. I know my Iceage spindles were a little heavier than stock. I don’t think these lift as much as the Iceage, that’s were Iceage gets some of its weight, the 2” extra length.
 

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Very interesting. Look lighter than ice age. Wonder how strong they are. One thing I'd like to know is if they steer lighter than ice age. Cause Ice age steers harder than stock. Have been thinking of trying to find a solution to extend the tie rod mounting point on my ice age spindles...

I slid the front track shock just a tad rearward on my rails to raise it up just a little more. Fixes what you're describing. I sold the sled so can't show you what I'm talking about but I also had to beef up the bumpers a little to raise the bottom out point so it wasn't bottoming the shock.
 
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I’d like to see a weight on them compared to stick. I know my Iceage spindles were a little heavier than stock. I don’t think these lift as much as the Iceage, that’s were Iceage gets some of its weight, the 2” extra length.
Backwoods told me there lift was also 2" at the bulkhead which would be the same lift as the iceage spindle. I would like to know if they are the same length.
 

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Backwoods told me there lift was also 2" at the bulkhead which would be the same lift as the iceage spindle. I would like to know if they are the same length.
Pretty sure I saw somewhere they posted with 1.5" or 1.25" added length from the ball joint to the ski mount, but I'm wrong. Says 2" taller on the website. Wonder weight compared to stock spindle, they look like they could be about same weight as stock.
 

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i dont see where they list the length. I know 'Mtn. Side' spindles raises 1.5". Was thinking that would be better for leaving the skid position alone. Then again, if ya end up dropping the skid anyways, then 2" probably best.
on the weight, whichever one packs the least snow in them.
Almost looks like the old geometry upper a-arm in that first backwoods pic...
 
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Sooooo I was going to go a head and guinea these spindles. The time from ordering to actually shipping was 4+ weeks. On check out with no special shippimg was 92$. plus possible another 2 weeks to ship! Dont know if I can wait that long and with tax I would be pretty close to the cost of the iceage elevate kit and I still have to source a longer limiter strap for the backwoods spindles,,,,.
Iceage Elevate in stock ready to ship at no etra cost. :confused:
 

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Does anyone else have steering stops to protect from over-stressing a steering system like Elevate or any other OEM? Sure helps reduce blown-out steering bushings and bent tie rods.
 

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Sooooo I was going to go a head and guinea these spindles. The time from ordering to actually shipping was 4+ weeks. On check out with no special shippimg was 92$. plus possible another 2 weeks to ship! Dont know if I can wait that long and with tax I would be pretty close to the cost of the iceage elevate kit and I still have to source a longer limiter strap for the backwoods spindles,,,,.
Iceage Elevate in stock ready to ship at no etra cost. :confused:
I have a strap from the elevate kit you can have
 

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I put a set of highmark spindles on my 2020 alpha hardcore and I can honestly say that they are absolutely horrible. The steering effort is insane and the bump steer that these spindles induce is downright dangerous, I really tried to make them work with a good ski alignment, different rear shock springs and preload settings and I've even tried some different front springs but nothing helped. I compared my sled with these spindles side by side with an alpha with ice age spindles and the differences are quite obvious, the caster angle is different, and the tie rod attachment is quite different. The sled with the ice age spindles handles great, but mine with the Backwoods spindles is nearly unrideable. Maybe someone else has had better luck than me but this has been my experience. 2 rides on these and they are going in the trash, never have I been more disappointed with a snowmobile product.
 

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Nope I had the same exact experience last weekend. Bump Steer is what I noticed most. And I had and ice age on one side and BMP of the other side so I could really test it out. I had already bent a BMP spindle, thus why I had an ice age on the other side waiting for a replacement. After numerous phone calls and emails with no response after 3 weeks, I cancelled my replacement BMP order and ordered another set of ice age. They shipped them that day. Customer service with BMP is not good. I get that you might be super swamped, but you still need to get back to your customers if you want to run a successful business.
 

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The amount of trail is probably more important. You can't change the castor angle without making a change to the ball joint locations. Which requires a change to the arms. The offset and trail and can be adjusted by changing the location of the ski mount. In the diagram linked below think of the steering axis as the line through the ball joints, and the center hub of the front wheel being the bolt holding the ski on. This is also going to be affected by other things like depth of the ski keel and what has been done with raising and lowering the skid (head tube angle). And skis like SLP that have two mounting options forward and back allow for some adjustment as well. I know my Ice Age spindles gave more feedback with the powder pro skis in one mounting location vs another.

https://calfeedesign.com/geometry-of-bike-handling/

Does anyone else have steering stops to protect from over-stressing a steering system like Elevate or any other OEM? Sure helps reduce blown-out steering bushings and bent tie rods.
The OEM Cat Riot spindles have steering stops.
 
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