Ban skiers from some areas obviously.
Same logic seems to be working against us. I think it's time.
Preach it brother.
I don't get it either. Like most of us, I live in an area surrounded by wilderness areas PLUS tons of additional non-motorized zones. I hiked on skins with a splitboard and skis for almost a decade before I owned a sled. Never once has that activity ever felt threatened to me. I just spoke with the owner of a ski company here and I asked him that same question: if his skiing opportunities ever felt threatened. He laughed at me and said 'fvck no'
There are honest people out there on skis.
It's kind of sad that lots of our friends and us take more and more of our trips to canada go sledding (and yes skiing from sleds). It's getting a little nuts here. And it's predicitated on lies, entitlement, and gross misrepresentations of reality.
Odd and provocative thought of the day -
There are 9ish billion people on Planet Earth. Probably 85% of which are concentrated to heavily urbanized areas of the planet .... yet ... Virtually every single woe we, OR ... "The Environmentalists" ... seem to talk about can ultimately be attributed to overpopulation.
Everyone seems to long for the days of yore .... When freedom appeared to be much more rampant?
Where are we now?
We have population densities quintupling in areas previously .... disregarded? .... Technology has made our snowmobiles thousands of times more capable than they were in the decades of "yore" ...
We all want our own version of "Freedom". Ultimately, that's what we're all after.
Where do we go from here?
This is a very complicated topic. We can argue a day long, but it comes down to leadership. Who do we as the snowmobile community (seen as the bad guy, black sheep most of the time) have as leadership? Easy to say who we don’t have! There are a few leading the way, like Stan Spencer out of Missoula, MT who started backcountry sled patriots. There are many other snowmobile organizations out there. Here’s something to think about. The snowmobile world just had one of its biggest events this past month! HayDays! I wonder how much talk and leadership happened at this event about Keeping Mountain riding access open??? I Can guarantee there was 99% talk about new sleds, beers drank, turbo, big bore, parts and accessories talk, Instagram videos posted, sponsorships made. We have a bunch of small organizations but no real voice pushing to the manufacturers and lawmakers. Until we have the manufactures and law makers supporting us or at least listening, our sport is not going to be around for our kids and grandkids to enjoy. How do we make this happen? I’m not sure, but bitching about loud cans and he says she says is not helping the cause. Rant over.
We had someone at Haydays. You see any blue logo stickers or t-shirts that said 'keep tahoe sledding'?
If you do in the future, say hi. Lots of good folks across the country who aren't bitter burnouts. Blue Ribbon Coalition just had a lot of turnover and seem to have some new life breathed into them.
You've got liz cheney on your side if you live in WY. You should look up some of what she's done recently.
Like I said, osv travel management will be visiting you all soon. We're the first. I'm tits deep in some deadlines right now but I'm always down to start growing the network. It needs to happen before everything we truly love in life for 6 months out of the year is gone. Ain't got no time for bitchin. We need to get moving, whether you agree with me (or backcountry united) on one specific detail or not.
Get out and vote next month, and vote Republican.
When the Democrats are in power, we lose land.
Always have, always will.
Pretty easy way to make a difference.
Sadly,I have no long term panacea solutions to offer that have not been suggested above in this needed discussion. The only thing that I can contribute is that loss of access to the "back-country" is not confined to ATVs & Sleds; I live in rural Montana (ranch country) and access for fishing & hunting is being being bought-out by affluent private interests thereby excluding the public. Even simple "horn hunting" for sheds has become a cut-throat activity in the public land. At this rate, the increasing sheer numbers of disrespectful, selfish individuals recreating in our public lands will destroy the joy for all. That begs the question, or "elephant in the room", is there simply TOO many outdoor recreationists competing for the available space on our public lands??
Yeah that democrat that created Boulder-Whitecloud Wilderness........oh wait
The wilderness bills and wilderness act revisions that happened in 1984 under that democrat Ronald Rea......oh wait
We've lost land under everyone. Politicians do whatever they think makes them look good, regardless of party. We're at an inherent disadvantage with the way the rules are written to favor future wilderness designation through roadless inventories, recommended wilderness, and the 'primitive/natural/non-motorized' nonsense. The laws need to change because they suck. I don't give a crap what party they come from if they're willing to have an honest discussion about these nutty laws.
Have you not heard of the travel management rule from 2005?
sleds are just the latest.