2019 Summit 600 Gen 4 Reports

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I picked up my 2019 SP 154 a few weeks ago. I've put on maybe 300 miles and it's down to 30% on the break-in countdown. I'm coming off of a 2017 SP 600Etec 154 so a similar older model.

My impressions:

Power: Comparing the 600Etec to the 600R isn't even close. There is definitely more power based on seat of the pants. It feels more like an 800 than a 600. The big thing though is that the throttle response is very quick and strong. This is probably a combination of not only the new motor but the new clutch as well. I'm still getting used to that when boon docking as a little blip goes a long way. In the open it has everything need and then some. I'll probably need to adjust the clickers as it just up to 8300rpm. Top speed on a trail is way more than my previous 600's and it gets there much quicker. I can only imagine what it will be like after the break-in times out.

Handling: I'm still getting used to this sled. I'm 235lbs and the 600R with the 154 2.5" track takes me everywhere with ease. I played with the front and rear springs a bit and ended up right back at the factory settings. Skiis are set narrow. The sled is incredibly easy to roll. I started off thinking that it was tippy. After a few days of riding I'm starting to get used to the handling and wouldn't want it any other way. I use so much less effort going out for a days riding and it is noticeable. Like I said, I played with the suspension a bit and ended up going back to factory because I didn't want to give up the ease of handling. I find myself using my feet to steer more than the bars. A little weight shift and it goes where I want. Intuitive is a good description. Climbs up on top and floats very easy in all conditions going slow as well as fast. Handles trails well, floats over the rough well.

Build Quality: The sled feels strong when bouncing back and forth from running board to board. Snow evacuation and grip of the boards is good. The instrument cluster if fine, easy to see seated or standing although cycling all the way through to reset the trip meter is a bit of a pain. Fit and finish is excellent. Seat, bars, side panels and clip all good.
 

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That 600 r 154 sounds like the sleeper weapon ,
What pitch is the 2.5 they are using on it ?
 

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As of today I have just over 1000 miles on the 19 600R Summit. I had the sled broke in at 130 miles. It was pushed hard and dumped a lot of fuel the first 2 days resulting in a quick breakin period. Initially it seemed the 19 600R liked its fuel more than the previous 600 etech. However after racking on some additional miles it seems to be similar in fuel consumption to the old 600 etech. The sled is still impressive and is smoother after a few hundred miles. No problems or issues.
 

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I've always considered myself a Polaris guy, but at the same time I'm a confirmed 600 rider after many years on my 600VES. Seems like the 600s just work year after year without complaint, unlike the big motor drama queens (and I know, those aren't always as bad as they're made out to be). So, until I find myself pining for more power, there's a good chance my next sled will be a 600 as well. As best I can tell, the Polaris and AC 600s have barely changed in the last 10 years, making the 600R the first brand new 600 in a long time. So it's hard not to be tempted to jump ship. Of course, an AXYS 600 is also tempting; I'd like some seat time on both, but I'd bet the 600R wins in the motor department by a country mile. For now, keep the reports coming!
 

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Yes I purchased a 600R summit today. The kids are getting upgraded from 300 freestyle. They've already been riding a couple of 800's a far amount so I guess it was time. I had my mind set on 2.5x154 but the dealer only had the 3"track left with shot. Shot was a must so 3"track it is. I love the 3"track on the 850 165 so hopefully it keeps snowing a lot and I'm sure the track will be just fine. Generally we ride off trail from the car and if it's not powder I'm probably doing something else.

I see people having issues with the track but I have a feeling they're running a lot of trail. I think this track probably isn't happy on a hard packed trail. Hard to tell on my 850 it's been pretty much powder or super soft trail. Sunday will be the madien voyage.
 

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2019 600R 154x3, unload at 8500ft and go up from there, SkiDoo missed the clutching on this summit 600R, Primary is setup with 997 arm, 15.2 gram bolt, 150/350 spring, secondary is setup with Bl/Bl spring and 46/42 helix, gearing 21/53, in stock form 7300-7500 max RPM in the deep, clutching and gearing changes now achieve 8100/8200 in the deep and performs very well
 

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Would you be willing to share your changes? I purchased 2 and ride mainly 3500-5500 feet and thought they worked great. I am up for making changes if it is better for sure. Thanks
 

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2019 600R 154x3, unload at 8500ft and go up from there, SkiDoo missed the clutching on this sled

Interesting did you complete the break in? By no means do I think that many RPMs will be made up by break in but I think 200 might be possible. Sounds like I'm going to be working on clutching. In my past experience if it's that far off my dealer will push ski doo to do something or they might even take care of it themselves. They generally stand behind it being correct for our elevation.

Maybe not always beating up the dealer on price helps that kind of service!!! That's just from another thread with everyone looking for best price. I'd prefer service and not best price for this exact reason.
 
My 2019 Summit 600 (3” track w/ SHOT) now has 80 miles on it after 2 rides. I’d like to share a few observations.

There is no indication of break-in indicated on the display.

RPM is 7400-7700 @ 8000-9000 feet in “mixed snow” (10-15” of fresh, on 40” base”). This seems consistent with the snow flap on or off :)

It’s my first Ski-Doo and more importantly it’s my first time on a G4 platform. It’s certainly different to me relative to a Polaris Pro RMK or Axys RMK. I’m only 5’9” and 155#, but the chassis is very sensitive to inputs. Foot position seems to have a significant impact on handling when in technical situations. Lastly the front end seems a little twitchy to me when side hilling, especially if running across old tracks.

Today I’ll adjust the clickers to hopefully yield a few more RPM’s. Perhaps there’s a few more R’s hiding once break-in completes. The engine is amazingly smooth and easy to ride, so I’m definitely looking forward to adjusting to the “new to me chassis” and enjoying my new ride.



 

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I'm thinking a 600 will be my next ride. At 65 years old I'm finally past any ego issues and I think a new 600 would be plenty for me and where I ride. I used to have to have the biggest baddest and then mod it some. I love boondocking through good powder on moderate terrain. Oh and elec. start too. Ha
 

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I bought a 2020 Summit 600 with a 146" track. Still have 80% break in left so not a lot of experience. We have a 600 Polaris with about 1000 miles and the power feels pretty similar, maybe that will change as the Summit gets more miles. When it's cold it idles rough. It even occasionally dies until it's fully warmed up. I've owned a number of etecs that have purred at idle, regardless of being warm or cold. I'm wondering if plug indexing is a problem with the 2020 600s like it has been with the 850s.
 
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My 2019 Summit 600 (3” track w/ SHOT) now has 80 miles on it after 2 rides. I’d like to share a few observations.

There is no indication of break-in indicated on the display.

RPM is 7400-7700 @ 8000-9000 feet in “mixed snow” (10-15” of fresh, on 40” base”). This seems consistent with the snow flap on or off :)

It’s my first Ski-Doo and more importantly it’s my first time on a G4 platform. It’s certainly different to me relative to a Polaris Pro RMK or Axys RMK. I’m only 5’9” and 155#, but the chassis is very sensitive to inputs. Foot position seems to have a significant impact on handling when in technical situations. Lastly the front end seems a little twitchy to me when side hilling, especially if running across old tracks.

Today I’ll adjust the clickers to hopefully yield a few more RPM’s. Perhaps there’s a few more R’s hiding once break-in completes. The engine is amazingly smooth and easy to ride, so I’m definitely looking forward to adjusting to the “new to me chassis” and enjoying my new ride.



Target rpm's is 8200, your not getting the full potential of the 600r running 7400-7700.
 

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I should end the day tomorrow with 5000 miles on my 19 600R 154 for patrol. Still runs strong. The only thing I had to replace was a battery and belt. Due to the radio equipment I usually only get a season on a battery and the belt failure was operator caused (burned a flat spot).
 
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