• I've received emails and PM's asking me about "Group Buys" and promotions.

    A Group Buy here on SnoWestOnline.com would be a situation where a normal member (non vendor or mfg) personally collects orders from other members. That member then uses those orders to negotiate a better price with the Vendor/Mfg for HIS/HER "Group" of buyers.

    Here is an example of a viable "Group Buy"


    A promotion that has the words "Group Buy" in the title is still a promotion, and from the rules that were handed down to me by Harris Publications is that non-advertisers cannot run promotions or open sales programs on the forums outside of the swapmeet.

    If a members wants to become a group buy manager, maintain a thread and collect the funds and negotiate a group buy... as a member, you are welcome to do that as long as you are not attached to the business of the vendor or Mfg.

    If you are a vendor/MFG and you want to offer an EXCLUSIVE "SnoWestOnline ONLY" promotion that is exclusive to snowest readers, please contact me and you'll be able to put it up in the Polaris forums.

    Also, before any vendors/mfgs get all "riled up" over this know that the moderators are strictly volunteers and do not receive a dime from any advertising $$ spent on this site.

    As ALWAYS, since DAY ONE of me becoming a moderator, I have pioneered, supported and encouraged vendors and mfgs in getting the word out to our readers with "New Product Announcements.

    Have a great season.

    From this point on, all vendors/mfg's promoting Pre-Season tiered sales programs, in the Polaris Forums, that are not paid advertisers will be appropriately moved to the swapmeet section of the forums.


1998 polaris indy trail tourning 488 f/c mods

Jan 3, 2018
I bought a 1998 polaris trail touring for 400 bucks. I’m just getting into mods and would like some tips on how to make this sled more off trail capable and lighter. One thing i would like to do is take the big bulky 2 up seat off and replace it with a smaller seat. I don’t want to spend too much money. Anything helps thank you in advance.


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Oct 7, 2004
Medicine Hat, AB
Not sure what your budget is but here are some suggestions:

Check Aaen's website to see if they offer a pipe for your model. They usually tout a HP increase along with weight loss.

Shaving and / or cutting the cylinder head is an option for more power as well but is dependent on elevation. You will need to find a competent shop that specializes in snowmobile performance for this.

The best bang for your buck will be to make sure the machine is maintained and tuned properly. I.E.
Clutches(cleaned, in servicable condition, belt deflection set, & tuned for proper engagement / max. RPM)
Carbs/fuel system(cleaned, new hoses, sync'd, & jetted properly)
Timing(set to spec. or more depending on tuning / plug reading)
Chassis(Ski alignment, track tension, suspension pivot points / lubrication, etc.)



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Nov 2, 2017
Roberts, MT
I started off with an old fan sled and similar questions. I ended up with a 600 RMK as my primary sled, but I've got another Indy Trail I'm working on building into an ultralight mod sled. Merlin covered a lot of ground, but I'll throw in my two cents.

First, I'd recommend saving your money on horsepower upgrades for now. You can make more power out of a fan sled, but only the 3-5 HP you can get from careful tuning is remotely cost-effective compared to upgrading to a liquid-cooled sled. There is more power to be made from exhaust, porting, bigger carbs, and so on, but that takes a lot of time, effort, and know-how. Beyond that, most people don't bother is because you've got heat issues when you try to push more power with a fan. It's a dead horse that gets beaten every time someone posts about a fan sled, but I bring it up for the sake of expectations.

You hit on easily the biggest thing you can do, which is lose unnecessary weight. Ditch any mirrors, luggage rack, and such add-ons. If you're willing to do some adapting and fabricating, you could fit a lightweight seat from any number of sleds (doesn't have to be Polaris); you might find something cheap perusing Craigslist. The other thing to look for is a set of plastic skis; those shed significant weight and typically perform better. They're not universal though, so make sure you know how you're going to fit them before you buy. Pretty sure you've got a longer track on that, so with some weight-shedding you should be able to manage off-trail if it's not too deep.
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