154, 165, or 175?

Which length?

  • 154

    Votes: 114 26.0%
  • 165

    Votes: 211 48.1%
  • 175

    Votes: 114 26.0%

  • Total voters
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MountainTrashCat

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Ok, this is getting real now. A couple weeks left to decide between a 154 and a 165.

My T3 154 has been such a fun sled to ride, despite some opinions that they wheelie too much. Definitely gotta manage your momentum and throttle control appropriately. Most likely gonna go with another 154x3” unless someone can convince me otherwise. :face-icon-small-hap
 

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Ok, this is getting real now. A couple weeks left to decide between a 154 and a 165.

My T3 154 has been such a fun sled to ride, despite some opinions that they wheelie too much. Definitely gotta manage your momentum and throttle control appropriately. Most likely gonna go with another 154x3” unless someone can convince me otherwise. :face-icon-small-hap
Having both sleds I would say buy the 165. If you ride super steep hills at all the 154 3" sucks. I love my 154 but you can ask all the guys I ride with about how they love making fun of me as I am trying to beat my way up some super steep hill and I am wheelie over backwards. I have Tom's and Z-motion and the thing still wheelies like stupid. I have been told the 2.5 does not have this problem on the 154 by respectable riders but I have yet to try one. I see zero difference in technical for turning compared to my 154 and 165. The 165 turns just as easy and never had the horrible wheelie problem.

My next go around I'm going to make a stupid light 165 and a 165 turbo. The 154 is dead to me...
 

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Thanks for the input...

How would you compare it to the T3 154?

For what it’s worth I heard guys say the same about the T3 but I absolutely love the thing. It wheelies pretty bad too, lowering the bars 4” made a massive difference along with some suspension tweaks.

Would sure be nice if a guy could just try one before I buy.... yes Doo that is aimed at YOU...!!!!
 

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I never rode the 154 T3. I owned a 154 2.5 and went to a 163 for the T3. I am with you on the demos. Seems like they don't exist. Usually just one sled to try. I've never even seen a 2.5 G4 in person. I know they exist but it would be awesome to be able to actually try one instead of making decisions on what you read...
 

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You could just have all three then you should always have one to ride

I never rode the 154 T3. I owned a 154 2.5 and went to a 163 for the T3. I am with you on the demos. Seems like they don't exist. Usually just one sled to try. I've never even seen a 2.5 G4 in person. I know they exist but it would be awesome to be able to actually try one instead of making decisions on what you read...
 
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Cat rider here, but don't hate me. I ride a Cat 153x3.0 PC with the new FOX QSL RTS that locks the rear skid from compressing in "L" mode; it's amazing in the minimal rider input required to carve & keeps the sled from over-transfering on steep climbs! I would guess that you would have to lock your T-motion out for the same effect, but it does allow you to ride a 3x153 track for all the advantages while minimizing the disadvantages. My2cts!
 

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Cat rider here, but don't hate me. I ride a Cat 153x3.0 PC with the new FOX QSL RTS that locks the rear skid from compressing in "L" mode; it's amazing in the minimal rider input required to carve & keeps the sled from over-transfering on steep climbs! I would guess that you would have to lock your T-motion out for the same effect, but it does allow you to ride a 3x153 track for all the advantages while minimizing the disadvantages. My2cts!
Yes witnessed this first hand this year, toms E motion can be ordered with this option. And skinz has arc as well.
 

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I'm still on the fence with this..... 154 or 165?

190lbs + gear and prefer (reasonable) tree riding
I went over to youtube and watched people riding the 154 and the 165. Dozens of videos.

Obviously the 165 will climb better.

For me it was snow depth. Rarely get more than 4 feet of fresh powder in my riding area so went with 154 BECAUSE of the wheelie and more agile fun factor.

Plus I ride with my 13 year old son who is coming off a 2012 POO 155 2.6 track.

For deep snow >4 feet and steep climbs go long track.

FYI JUST bought the 154 . The 165 is one more LUG in the snow ... about 6 inches longer than the 154.


The 17x track sled geometry was redesigned to accommodate the track.

So to demolish my entire rationale for buying the 154 .... would have gone to 165 if I could find one reasonable priced and not be the guy stuck in the group ! But I thnk my son at 90 lbs would appreciate it. So I would have a 154 and 165.

I picked up the 18 154 with shot for 10320 OTD but would have paid 500 more for a 165 ... (10830) if one was available for me at 230lbs

Most places called wanted 11500 to 12300 for a 165 with shot. Found a couple places with 2018 under 11k but sold out. There are lots of2018 sp 165 pulls for 10499.

Can snowcheck a 119 154 with shot for around 13 at Montrose

For just trees with snow pack falling from the branches .... a shorter track will be more nimble.

Watch many videos and see the difference with the 165 vs 154.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R70LmNvMei0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atHKLuf2XXo
 
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I have a 165x2.5. Stock these things still wheelie. I was super surprised. I had to play with my suspension a bit to get it where I wanted. Doo sets these things up to be super playful and fun. I like a little more of a planted feel myself.. much like you get from the Axys. I must say, after tightening up the limiter straps and torsion springs its now a tractor. Hardly any ski lift. It does trench a little more, but it holds a sidehill much easier. I feel like I lost a little bit of fun factor going to the 165 from my 155 axys. I may snowcheck a 154 next time. In saying that, we don't have a lot of super steep hills around here, just really deep bottomless snow. I could 100% understand why guys would rather a 165 in the mountains over the 154. In saying all of that, it's still the best sled I've ever rode/owned. :rockon:
 

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My vote would be a 154 tunnel and a 165 3in skid and track with skinzs t motion delete and zbros coilover conversion
 
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