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1183 belt separation

summ8rmk

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Have any of you noticed delamination or separation of the belt?

My buddies came apart and now mine is.
Not sure if we got a bad batch or if this is how this belt is?

Can't really tell until u lift the top of the belt. 20210318_203018.jpg 20210318_202919.jpg

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Have any of you noticed delamination or separation of the belt?

My buddies came apart and now mine is.
Not sure if we got a bad batch or if this is how this belt is?

Can't really tell until u lift the top of the belt. View attachment 370224 View attachment 370225

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Belt is Worn out and has been overheated.

@TRS was sanding the material above the cog low points back to help keep the belt from overheating at the strings.
 

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Belt is Worn out and has been overheated.

@TRS was sanding the material above the cog low points back to help keep the belt from overheating at the strings.
Been riding for 30yrs, ~25k miles, 40+ belts, only ever had one other belt do this.
My cats would burn up belts every 200-300 miles and the belts wouldn't seperate like this.

~500mi on this belt.

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Been riding for 30yrs, ~25k miles, 40+ belts, only ever had one other belt do this.
My cats would burn up belts every 200-300 miles and the belts wouldn't seperate like this.

~500mi on this belt.

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At 500 miles I’d say you got plenty of use out of it.


Try sanding the next belt so the top cogs don’t touch the sheaves.

Heat usually is what makes the glue let go.
 

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At 500 miles I’d say you got plenty of use out of it.


Try sanding the next belt so the top cogs don’t touch the sheaves.

Heat usually is what makes the glue let go.
X2. I can't make a belt last longer than 300 miles and thats lucky. 150 miles is pushing it for race gas turbo tss04 track screws.

Anyone using these fancy ir heat radar jobbies for measuring belt temp? Thinking about ordering a new Koso x2 boost and just using that plus belt temp and two or three other 2.125 or 2 5/8" holes for lightweight mechanical Guages

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X2. I can't make a belt last longer than 300 miles and thats lucky. 150 miles is pushing it for race gas turbo tss04 track screws.

Anyone using these fancy ir heat radar jobbies for measuring belt temp? Thinking about ordering a new Koso x2 boost and just using that plus belt temp and two or three other 2.125 or 2 5/8" holes for lightweight mechanical Guages

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I had the razorback on my last proclimb chassis. It was hard to get 300mi on all my zuke powered sleds. If there was 18" or more new snow, it would run 220°'s on flat ground.


The ascender chassis however, its easy to get 1,200+ mi on a belt (only 1,100mi on the Primary though lol). I was hoping that the Khaos with TRS clutching would net me 1,000+.
My buddy had his 1183 delamination happen at 250mi, then second belt has over 600mi without issue.

Maybe i should go back to the 1216 belt?
I only put 50-70mi on the original belt before i went with TRS clutching and 1183 belt.



I'll take a temp gun with me and try to work the sled today and see what the temps are.
 

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i mean that i have 12 belts hanging on my wall that are all glazed off, wore out of spec, flat sided, or started delaminating. Id say my clutching knowledge is amature at best. hear wanting to learn just like everyone else! Just got TI bolts and a P.C. carbon p85 plate. I kind of set my sleds up for mid throttle to full bar or 10 mph roll to 60 or so. Thats where i try to spend most my time. Seems like guys phocuson the holeshots or off max rpm vs/vs/vs ect. I also think that VERY few people in the picture actually KNOW wtf they are talking about, specifically in the black arts of clutching, jetting, pipe mods, ect.. and fewer by the day. It would be wise for any of us in the sport now, and whom plan to be later in life? Ask more questions lol
 

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I had the razorback on my last proclimb chassis. It was hard to get 300mi on all my zuke powered sleds. If there was 18" or more new snow, it would run 220°'s on flat ground.


The ascender chassis however, its easy to get 1,200+ mi on a belt (only 1,100mi on the Primary though lol). I was hoping that the Khaos with TRS clutching would net me 1,000+.
My buddy had his 1183 delamination happen at 250mi, then second belt has over 600mi without issue.

Maybe i should go back to the 1216 belt?
I only put 50-70mi on the original belt before i went with TRS clutching and 1183 belt.



I'll take a temp gun with me and try to work the sled today and see what the temps are.

Have you checked alignment?
Set belt to sheave clearance?
 

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Have you checked alignment?
Set belt to sheave clearance?
Yes, and yes.
TRS alignment bar and clutching.
Tony shimmed my primary.

This clutching feels real good. I am very happy with the performance. Indy Specialties heavy cover gets rid of a lot of vibration.

Today, not much new snow so hard to really load the engine however i kept her pinned up the hill, over and over try to get clutches hot. Checked belt temp with heat gun.


850 doo, 180°'s
SLP piped RMK, 160°'s
Mine, 140°'s

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I wish Polaris would put a little more effort into designing a belt that could handle more heat, the 216's are very sturdy (have one with 1,500 miles on it) it works satisfactory on the mountain for short duration pulls or short duration trail breaking, but the minute you decide you want to get home in a hurry and go smoking down the trail at 60 to 70 MPH the sheaves turn brown and clutching efficiency goes in the toilet as the belt can't handle the heat. The 1183 performs well until they overheat and pull cords and delaminate as you have shown. The Gates C series perform fantastic until the top cog delaminates, you have to be overly careful with them in my opinion or you won't get many miles. Gates recently sent me a 45R4553 "Redline" as a warranty replacement for a failed 45C4553, I will be running it over the next few days in an effort to see if somebody finally built a better mousetrap.
 
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