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Got my questions answered about what changes I can make on the sled and I appreciate the response

Since the my 18 has 3200 miles I am considering just throwing in a top end even though compression feels strong. What is compression on these. Pair of oem piston kits are $200. So I'm sure under $300 with all gaskets and o rings. I haven't done a sled rebuild since the 90s and 2000s sleds. A few banshees and about 20 fourstroke motocross bikes. Anything specific in need to watch for or replace while I'm at it? Is it worth it if compression ia good? Again not sure what compression ia. Thanks again
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Learn about the 3valves per cylinder before u take it apart.
I guess u dont have to remove them but i would , to make sure they're all clean.

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It's a relatively new motor so nobody knows how far it'll go but on a 2-stroke generally two to three thousand miles is a good idea
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Country Cat has the full service manual on their website available to view
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Generally you'll feel the engine loose power in a long pull. That's a huge sign it needs a new top end. It will even show decent in a compression test but things will change when it's wide open under 100% load for 4 minutes straight.
3,200 miles IMO is to long with out a top end. Very least head would come off for inspection.

The Suzuki engine here where I mostly ride will need a top end about 2500 and then entire rebuild about 5500 ish. Long pulls, heavy loads, and in air density in the 14,000 ft + most days.
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Things may look fine but with those miles you will be getting near the thin piston skirt and possible engine failure that Iíve seen with high/hard miled cat engines. Granted Iíve seen higher miles before failure but itís just a good idea to change pistons now to save a bigger bill later
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I think people who just do top ends are crazy. It is hardly any more work to do the bottom end crank seals. Maybe you can get away with it but I wouldn't. M1000s used to lose the pto side all the time after a top end. I have had two apart at 1700-2000 miles AFTER someone else did a top end. On both there was dirt inside the seal. If dirt can get through, air can and that is what burns down a lot of 2 strokes.


If you are going to do it, I would do the whole job.
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I think people who just do top ends are crazy. It is hardly any more work to do the bottom end crank seals. Maybe you can get away with it but I wouldn't. M1000s used to lose the pto side all the time after a top end. I have had two apart at 1700-2000 miles AFTER someone else did a top end. On both there was dirt inside the seal. If dirt can get through, air can and that is what burns down a lot of 2 strokes.


If you are going to do it, I would do the whole job.
M1000s were harder on cranks but you can do 2-3 sets of pistons on an 8 before worrying about the crank, most 800 crank issues Iíve seen came from failed pistons
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M1000s were harder on cranks but you can do 2-3 sets of pistons on an 8 before worrying about the crank, most 800 crank issues Iíve seen came from failed pistons
^^^^this I've had many of thousand cranks and the 800 definitely go a lot further than the thousands do
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id give a quick look down the exhaust ports, if the pistons look good, minimal scratching (tiny ones), run it.
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