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Default Is there an Easier Pulling/Starting Mountain Sled

I am going to ask this question at the risk of being called a wimp!

I had an Arctic Cat M8 for years and even with the SLP stage III kit, I never had an issue starting the sled when it was cold. I updated to a 2015 M8000 and the sled was harder to pull over than the M8 but, I managed. A month ago I added a SSI high compression head and now when it's below 10 degrees the M8000 is a real bugger to pull. I guess that's fairly predictable.

I'm not a huge guy but, I'm not a featherweight either. I weight about 180 and am in pretty good shape. Years ago I had the same issue with my wife's 99 Phazer 500 Mountain Lite in Cooke City when it was below zero. We could hardly pull the sled over.

Like all of us, maybe I am just getting older and I'm wondering if there is a sled that is easier (better mechanical advantage) than my M8000 Proclimb?

Is the new Cat engine is easier to pull over when cold than the Suzuki engine?

I love the Skidoo SHOT system but, it's always that first start in the morning that is the tough one and with the SHOT setup, you still have to start it initially to charge the super capacitor.

I would bet that other manufactures are inking deals with Bombardier to use their SHOT technology on their 2020 sleds.

I don't want to have to carry around the extra weight of an electric start but, there has to be a mountains led that is easier to pull over than the M8000 when it's cold.

Has anyone else ever had to stand on their rails and jump back to start their M8000 when it's below 10 degrees? I am worried the starter rope is going to break.

What are your thoughts, ideas and experiences?
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Electric start, won't own a sled without it!
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Have you tired the c-tech oil, I would assume that would pull over easier with the thinner oil.
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Just my very humble opinion......but the only easy 2-stroker to start is one with crappy compression or one with electric start. I have a ‘14 M8000 that has great compression and is a bugger to start. I did just snap the factory starter rope a few weeks ago. I replaced it with a Cobra Cord that has a lifetime warranty. I have 4 cats and only 2 of them have electric start. I have actually thought of putting electric start on all of them for the sake of my family. I have a wife and two daughters and none of them can pull start our sleds (they all have really good compression). Unless you are competing professionally in hill climb competitions, I think it is worth getting/adding electric start. I like to take different family and friends sledding on them from time to time and it would make life much easier.


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18 cats are supposed to be easier. might even have a decompressor?
polaris' are easier.
even with e-start id pull it over slowly on cold mornings first. just me.
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Thanks guys! I'm glad to hear it's not just me!

I just bought a new 50cc Stihl chainsaw and it has a decompressor to make it easier to start so, I would think an 800cc sled would have a mechanism to make them easier to start.

I know sleds and dirtbikes have had decompressors in the past and they ended up leaking compression in the past. Perhaps that's why they were deleted?
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as said above. I always pull my sled over 2-3 times real easy. It really does loosen up, then give it the normal pull. fires right up.
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Speaking of oil.....I bet doing an oil injection delete might help?
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My 18 starts much easier than my 14. Now the strength required to pull the rope is the same or a touch tougher on the 18 but its always 1 pull, 14 is 3 pulls when cold.

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