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Old 01-30-2017, 07:10 AM
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Maybe not new idea, but for sleds maybe. We've been testing this setup this season so far. Its been pretty flawless. There is some time needed to fit the two components and wire them together but in total the weight savings is good and for not super high dollars. Considering the EarthX battery we were running weighed in at 4lbs this set up came in at 2.88lbs for about the same price as the EarthX battery.
The main reason we looked into this idea, is the Viper seems to be plagued with a voltage issue. If it wasn't good and strong, its would do all kinds of crazy things.

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Interesting, I assume the battery charges the cap for a boost to start? Any chance of a quick wiring diagram?
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Maybe not new idea, but for sleds maybe. We've been testing this setup this season so far. Its been pretty flawless. There is some time needed to fit the two components and wire them together but in total the weight savings is good and for not super high dollars. Considering the EarthX battery we were running weighed in at 4lbs this set up came in at 2.88lbs for about the same price as the EarthX battery.
The main reason we looked into this idea, is the Viper seems to be plagued with a voltage issue. If it wasn't good and strong, its would do all kinds of crazy things.

Super Capacitor http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...BssI7LKw%3d%3d
hobby battery https://hobbyking.com/en_us/zippy-fl...epo4-pack.html

This one will be interesting to follow along...
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Interesting, I assume the battery charges the cap for a boost to start? Any chance of a quick wiring diagram?
Plus to plus. ground to ground. Nothing tricky. The battery is to keep the Super cap charged.
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Could you do it without a battery and have the sled charge it?
So you would have to pull start the first time of the day, but then after that the capacitors would have enough charge to run the electric start?
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Sure, the Super caps charge very quickly. And do hold the charge for a good while. Just not two weeks. For the day you'd be great once there charged.
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Like it. I run an EVO2 4 cell ballistic (weighs less than a pound) on my turbo Skidoo XP and use it with the starting relays to prime my fuel system. Carb turbo roll overs can still be a pain to start. W/ this setup, I could put my starter back on w/ out the weight penalty of a bigger battery. The little Evo does not have enough to do the job by itself.

You mentioned you could get away w/out a battery. Have you tried starting just off the capacitor w/out a battery also wired in line to see if the cranking amps really did hold up or cold start well?

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Havent tried it yet. Just been using both. I will give that a try next time were out.
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You posted in my build thread on TY. Pretty cool setup and very light. I wonder what the lifespan of that capacitor is?
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