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now running, 2016 slp pipe diamond s can pro quick drive gears

MTX 68 gr
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That's pretty messed up that your thread has disappeared. You had dedicated alot of time and information to that thread.
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wish they had made it a stickey as there was a ton of good stuff in there
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Im running sealevel with clutchkit from indydan

Primary:
v5-3 weights hole1 2.5gr hole 2 2.5gr hole 3 1gr hole 4 1 gr
spring 140/330 spring

secondary:
Helix they wont say.
125/175 spring

both clutches stay cool after long pulls and no belt slippage.

but im only pulling 8100-8150rpm.

tried removing 2gr from hole 2 to witch gave me 8200rpm, removed the last 0.5gr in hole 2 and suddenly it seem to pull 8000-8100 again.. that doesnt add up. for a notice the temp outside was warm this day, 35f and i know i can loose roughly 200rpm then but the temp usually doesnt effect my sled, probably due to seelevel.

tps is set.

should i start with empty weight and see if i pass the 8400rpm and if so start adding weight from hole 1.
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I got a phone call from a dealer last week thats very tight with polaris engineering management, he was asking me why i was looking for gearing pulleys, i mentioned about inconsistent clutching, he told me the whole problem is in the fuel map and proceeded to say that pol clutching from factory is as good as ur gonna get as they don't like to leave anything on the table.but he did say the slp weights were a good weight for the axys and trying the blk purple spring was good for backshift but some dont like the revy noisy feeling, incl me.
He said 2016s are lean in mid rich on top , 2017s rich mid and lean on top.
He said he shared his dissatisfaction with pol about the mapping and advised them to get it right, so i think were all chasing our own tail untill the mapping becomes better.
Ive been around the world with clutching on this thing , spent many hundreds of dollars on clutch parts and am at the point of just running stock with empty 71 grm mtx weights clutching and im gonna try pro gearing latter this week.
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Probably why they did the straight helix, I will say that it liked the 56 .36 start angle better than the 60 .46, but both pull better down low that the .40 straight, I have never ever seen a n/a sled that ran better with a straight helix so the fuel theory sounds pretty good
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Im running sealevel with clutchkit from indydan

Primary:
v5-3 weights hole1 2.5gr hole 2 2.5gr hole 3 1gr hole 4 1 gr
spring 140/330 spring

secondary:
Helix they wont say.
125/175 spring

both clutches stay cool after long pulls and no belt slippage.

but im only pulling 8100-8150rpm.

tried removing 2gr from hole 2 to witch gave me 8200rpm, removed the last 0.5gr in hole 2 and suddenly it seem to pull 8000-8100 again.. that doesnt add up. for a notice the temp outside was warm this day, 35f and i know i can loose roughly 200rpm then but the temp usually doesnt effect my sled, probably due to seelevel.

tps is set.

should i start with empty weight and see if i pass the 8400rpm and if so start adding weight from hole 1.

I would try the stock primary spri g, i just tried that same spring and didnt like it, got simular results, its got less pounds per inch rate than stock for starters and second of all , its engagement is like 4400, stock is 3700 with 71 grm mtx weights.
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now running, 2016 slp pipe diamond s can

MTX 68 gr
120-333 primary spring
56-40 .36 helix
black purple spring + 2 delrins

pulls 8350-8400

will test more and update
Currently I am running

SLP Pipe and Can, no resistor, Ethanol mode below 4000 ft.
EPI Belly Buster 64 gram weights
120-340 Primary
straight 40 Helix
Venom 170-240 secondary
roller needle bearing plate with 2 roller plates
2.4 gearing (2.1 /.875 for 7 tooth)

The Belly Buster weights are very aggressive and I tried a 56-40 helix and 62-42, 62-40 helixes. With low heel weight these other helixes worked better but they make it difficult to not spin the track with the Belly Busters. The straight 40 offsets this problem. Good RPM, maybe a little low over 7000 ft (8150), but really fast back-shift and recovery. So far best set up I have found.
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This is what I'm running in my 174. I've found the 174x3 needs to be clutched lighter and with more backshift than a 163x2.6 does.

17 174 with Bikeman pipe, can, y-pipe and Bully Dog program.
8-10,000 elevation
SLP Magnum Force weight - no added weight
SLP blue/pink primary
Black/purple secondary with one dehlrin
Stock 40 helix

Pulls 8300-8400 all day long whether climbing, in the powder or down the trail. I like the stock primary spring better for low speed crawling, but peak RPM aren't as consistent as the SLP blue/pink.
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Have some of you seen gains at 8,300 to 8,400. I've left my sled as stock running 10-62's at +9,000', it turns 8,100 at elevation even in deep powder pulls. My friend has tried a few other recommended set-ups some spinning 8,300 r's. The day he was turning high rpm's I could outrun him by a good margin 1MPH to 2MPH in all conditions. Seems to me having a couple dozen rides under my belt that 8,100 to 8,150 is spot on.
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