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I'm having an issue with my 06 Switchy. Since the beginning of the season, I've had my 900 idling at 2200 RPMs when it's cold, 1100 RPMs when it's warm (unless I give it a little bit of throttle, then back to 2200 RPMs). I've inspected all the connections, replaced intake boots, reset TPS (and wiggled the pigtail), replaced spark plugs, replaced gas with fresh, and tested for intake leaks by spraying starting fluid with the engine running.

I found nothing, sled still has erratic idle.

I felt safe enough to ride it, it has good power, but "stumbles" when the throttle is held in the same position anywhere above 6000 RPMs. Increase or decrease throttle, and the problem goes away. Next day I checked plugs...it's running pig rich!!! Started looking over wiring harness, and I couldn't find anything. Took off FnI airbox, started fiddling with the Intake Air Temp Sensor...this is where it gets weird...holding the sensor and trying to heat it up, does nothing. But when blown on, idle drops down to 1600 and sounds healthy. Eventually, the idle will come back up to 2200. When the sensor is disconnected, the idle comes back down to 1600, but flashes a check engine light. I never ohm'd it out, but is there a possibility the sensor is bad? I'd hate to buy a $90 sensor, only to find out it's supposed to do that!!! I also read in the service manual that the sensor resistance should be 9.7 - 10.3 KΩ at 77*...but I've read that some people have problems with the sensor within the stated specifications.

Any help or insight is highly appreciated!!!
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if you have already checked everything above then I would start checking PTO crank seal, mag side crank seal, injector seals (o-rings). My switchback was acting like that last year and I ended up having a bad pto crank seal which ended up in me seizing the pto side crank bearings. Not sure if the seal would contribute to that but I'm assuming so
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if your getting a change from the sensor it works but it may not work within the proper range ...works when you blow on it ! but not in place something blocking it's air flow ?
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if you have already checked everything above then I would start checking PTO crank seal, mag side crank seal, injector seals (o-rings). My switchback was acting like that last year and I ended up having a bad pto crank seal which ended up in me seizing the pto side crank bearings. Not sure if the seal would contribute to that but I'm assuming so
I checked the seals by running the engine and spraying starting fluid. I couldn't find any spots where the idle would change... The mag and pto seals were replaced early last season, and all of last season there weren't any problems. What gets me, is that the idle is high, yet the plugs definitely indicate rich.
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Stuck injectors? Get a bottle of amzoil PI and run it through a tank of gas and see if it helps. If not then I would pull the injectors and have them flow tested and fixed
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Stuck injectors? Get a bottle of amzoil PI and run it through a tank of gas and see if it helps. If not then I would pull the injectors and have them flow tested and fixed
I thought about that as well, but both side plugs looked the same...It would just be a weird coincidence for two injectors (or more) on different cylinders to go bad at the same time. It's definitely worth a shot, though!!!
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So, last weekend, I brought the sled home to my garage so I could do some diagnostics for it. Cleaned throttle bodies, reset TPS from .716 to .710, idle set to .930, replaced the TPS harness up to the ground splice for the coolant temp sensor.

The sled doesn't seem to be as picky about temperature, but now there is no rhyme or reason when it idles up...it's a 50/50 shot whether it idles at 2000 rpm or 1600 rpm. when it's idling high, unplugging any sensor will lower the rpm to 1600 (but flash a corresponding check engine light).

I'm about to go back out and pull the flywheel to check for separation/chaffing.

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You got a case of CHIPPED REEDS!!!

Take the throttle bodys off and the boots and have a look!!

Betting ur missing more then one pedal!!!
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