hand warmers revisited

mtn mike on boost · Oct 1, 2017

my g4 simply doesnt get warm enough. its odd they get plenty warm at idle but not when riding. dealer said they
are set on high. anyone swap out the stock elements for aftermarket last year and did it help? don't want cold hands all season again but worried maybe not enough amps to get aftermarket ones any warmer

sledhead_24_7 · Oct 1, 2017

Supposedly there is a “programming “ issue that Doo is “aware” of. Supposed to be flashing to fix it. At least that is story ( thinking BS, but...) I was told at the hill climb last spring.

Get your dealer to start making phone calls to BRP about crappy hand warmers.

I am

rmk all the way · Oct 7, 2017

I need to bug my dealer about this again

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idahoskiguy · Oct 7, 2017

Had this issue last season when we picked up the Gen4 850s, took the sleds back to the dealer and they did their magic, no problem since nice and warm.

NHRoadking · Oct 8, 2017

idahoskiguy said:
Had this issue last season when we picked up the Gen4 850s, took the back to the dealer and they did their magic, no problem since nice and warm.

I thought the only thing the dealers could do to the hand warmers via software was to change the balance of heat between the thumb and hand areas. I didn't think they could increase the overall heat output.

Illinoispowder · Oct 8, 2017

NHRoadking said:
I thought the only thing the dealers could do to the hand warmers via software was to change the balance of heat between the thumb and hand areas. I didn't think they could increase the overall heat output.

I've heard the same.

freeriide · Oct 10, 2017

I hope they have a fix

i'llDooit · Oct 10, 2017

freeriide said:
I hope they have a fix

I bet the 18 has warm grips

Kingofthehilllpg · Oct 10, 2017

wow that is strange, mine get so hot i can't turn them up over half way before for any length of time or they feel like they could almost burn my gloves?? I know that's probably not possible but they get smokin hot, too hot to use on full anyway but after having issues with my XP hand warmers not putting out enough heat I will gladly live with these on low.
There must be a quality control issue here with how they are made or installed to make them fluctuate so much?:noidea:

sledhead_24_7 · Oct 10, 2017

Yea mine last year took forever to get “warm” cranked all the way on high.

Then one side would go cold, the other also lost temp just not as bad. Then come back to life randomly.....

Dealer looked at them several times, “no issues”.

Brad@experienceps · Oct 12, 2017

The dealer can only adjust the balance. If it’s pull start the grip heaters work poorly. If it has e-start they get really warm.

Haven’t heard of a single issue.

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DITCHBANGER · Oct 12, 2017

estart here and mine are pretty good, there are times that i have to turn them down from full( at -30)

NHRoadking · Oct 12, 2017

Brad@experienceps said:
The dealer can only adjust the balance. If it’s pull start the grip heaters work poorly. If it has e-start they get really warm.

Haven’t heard of a single issue.

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So, how will they be on a sled with the SHOT system?

CookeCityRider · Oct 12, 2017

Last season my dealer was able to verify an issue with the grip heaters on my electric start 850. The voltage at the heaters would drop from 13 to 9 volts without changing the setting. The factory wasn’t able to figure out what the problem was at the time but I would assume and hope they have by now.
My guess would be a software bug as you could hit the high beam switch and they would be really warm for a while. But randomly or when restarted they would only be luke warm at the max setting.
It could be related some load shedding program built in to protect alternator or other electronics. The clue is the change in load (current) caused by switching the high beams.
From the diagram above the grip heater resistance is constant so the heat level is varied by changing the voltage to the heater elements.

Brad@experienceps · Oct 15, 2017

NHRoadking said:
So, how will they be on a sled with the SHOT system?

On the showroom floor the shot began to get hot about 5 seconds slower than an E-start.
Seem to get just as hot. Both settings on high 4/4 and both sleds cold.
Don’t have a pullstart to check that one.

freeriide · Oct 16, 2017

Mine is a pull start. So our answer is to buy a 18? Once again, great customer service skidoo.

Brad@experienceps · Oct 16, 2017

freeriide said:
Mine is a pull start. So our answer is to buy a 18? Once again, great customer service skidoo.

No, install RSI oem replacement heaters. Just be patient. You have a manual start with no battery, so the quicker the engine spins the better the heaters will work.

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NHRoadking · Oct 16, 2017

Brad@experienceps said:
On the showroom floor the shot began to get hot about 5 seconds slower than an E-start.
Seem to get just as hot. Both settings on high 4/4 and both sleds cold.
Don’t have a pullstart to check that one.

Thanks for doo-ing that test!

mtn mike on boost · Oct 19, 2017

my dealer contacted brp on my issue and their response is that they aren't aware of any issues??? I'm not the only one. this was discussed last season on these forums.

would love to hear for the doo rep guy that posts on SW. once again they get warm @ idle and cool off at higher rpm. it sux to have to take a chance on aftermarket warmers when it sounds more like an amp drop to me.

rmk all the way · Nov 2, 2017

So I was at the dealer tonight talking with them and there may be a ground wire down by the chain case that comes loses and causes the problem.

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