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Old 03-25-2019, 02:52 PM
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Truth be told I am not a cat guy in the least bit. I have a good friend that rides them and specifically a 2012 m 8000 162"

He likes it, recently he has been riding a ton in tight trees and steep terrain (where I hang out) When working on his riding technique he is really having a problem keeping, initiating and paneling out that sled.

Without saying that its the rider what are some of the ways you guys have improved those characteristics? He doesn't know if he can spend the money on a new cat which I know from experience handles awesome in the trees (and is what he needs) So I am trying to get him some options.

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2016 newer front end...
Move rear skid to the 2014 newer mounting location. Need to buy adapters for the rear drop brackets.
Done.

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2016 newer front end...
Move rear skid to the 2014 newer mounting location. Need to buy adapters for the rear drop brackets.
Done.

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Sources for parts?
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Sources for parts?
On sale
https://mountainvalleymachine.com/pr...ation-bracket/


Country Cat for the front end.

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On sale
https://mountainvalleymachine.com/pr...ation-bracket/


Country Cat for the front end.

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Thoughts on tracks? What bolts up with those drivers?

Is it a pretty big improvement to adjust the skid mounting?
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2.6" or 3" powerclaw depending on riding.

The '12s handled poorly for a mountain sled. The rear trenches bad in stock form.
The front makes it sidehill like a tank. No fun in the trees.

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2.6" or 3" powerclaw depending on riding.

The '12s handled poorly for a mountain sled. The rear trenches bad in stock form.
The front makes it sidehill like a tank. No fun in the trees.

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Yeah I know they were not known for being great in that environment. My buddy loves sledding, and is leaning toward a new cat ( I am a axys guy, hoped on the new cat right at home great sled two thumbs up) He keeps asking what he can do to improve this thing and he is not mechanical at all. So I wanted to get him some facts.
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As far as a newer sled.
I honestly would go to the best dealer in the area and ride what they sell.
Axys or Cat, both great tree sleds.
Doo has a home also, just not the best on one ski.

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Yeah I know they were not known for being great in that environment. My buddy loves sledding, and is leaning toward a new cat ( I am a axys guy, hoped on the new cat right at home great sled two thumbs up) He keeps asking what he can do to improve this thing and he is not mechanical at all. So I wanted to get him some facts.




The good news is, the basics of the sled are the same today as they were in 2012. You need to relocate the skid, swap to the 16 front end and I would stuff a 3" power claw under it. Clutching is the other big difference, the Team clutches on the 16-17 are a big improvement over the 12. The 18+ primary is even better. You can fit narrow boards and pull the bodywork in a couple inches. Still kinda fat but a big improvement for sidehilling.


So if he were mechanical, $2000 and some hours working on it would net him a pretty killer tree machine. That's used parts, your labor. If you have to pay someone, or buy all new parts the bill is going way up. Look for an 18 Mtn Cat, a nice used one would be a great sled to chase the Axys on. Heck even a 17 Mtn Cat is a formidable snow weapon, I have seen used ones for ~$8K
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