Clutch won't come off with Water?

Ausm7499 · Apr 12, 2009

I have read on here several times that you can pull your primary clutch by filling the hole with water and threading your clutch bolt back in with teflon tape around the threads.

I was hoping to get some tips or have somebody point out what I am doing wrong cause I can't get it to work with water or grease. I understand the concept and know what my problem is but I can't figure out how to fix it. The issue is that the threads are not holding the pressure necessary to push the primary off. The threads on my clutch bolt look a little flat should I buy another bolt and hope that it will keep the pressure from bleading out? Everytime I pulled the bolt back out the teflon tape is no longer around the threads, is there something that would work better to seal the threads?

Any help or advice would be great.

crazycat2 · Apr 12, 2009

stuck primary.

your going to get a alot of different ways (opinions) on how to get your primary off. i've had 2 gcome off the hard way also ; tighten bolt down as far as your comfortable with and tap the end of the bolt with a hammer several times (light tap to fairly hard hits). if not lose with this method . next put ALITTLE HEAT (PROPANE TORCH) remember not to get the torch to close to the very bottom of clutch (dont want to blue it) and rotating the clutch as you heat it . it may just cut lose on you while doing this ,if not tap the end of the bolt again ,repeating light to hard taps. if it does not come off then your in for fun YOUR ON YOUR OWN. this method worked for me ! any way good luck w/your clutch. ride hard be safe.

diggerdown · Apr 12, 2009

try the teflon tape that is used for gas fittings. It seals better. If the puller or clutch threads are pulled it does'nt seal good enough and you need to resort to the bigger hammer method.

m1000snowman · Apr 12, 2009

not to hot

dont get it too hot, heat is not good on seal

mtn_extreme · Apr 12, 2009

"I have read on here several times that you can pull your primary clutch by filling the hole with water and threading your clutch bolt back in with teflon tape around the threads."

Don't thread the origional clutch bolt back in, thread the clutch puller back in with teflon on it!

mbsieg · Apr 12, 2009

Ausm7499 said:
I have read on here several times that you can pull your primary clutch by filling the hole with water and threading your clutch bolt back in with teflon tape around the threads.

You cannot use your clutch bolt............... You must use a bolt or puller that threads into the CLUTCH. Not the crankshaft.......

favoritos · Apr 12, 2009

mtn_extreme said:
"I have read on here several times that you can pull your primary clutch by filling the hole with water and threading your clutch bolt back in with teflon tape around the threads."

Don't thread the origional clutch bolt back in, thread the clutch puller back in with teflon on it!

You beat me to it.

rbblrsn · Apr 12, 2009

Ditto on the clutch puller comments...

Another hint - instead of using water you can use (clean!) toilet paper soaked in water. Just poke little bits into the hole. When compressed the mushy toilet paper flows like thick liquid but doesn't run out of the hole. (This tip is THE ticket for pulling pilot bearings out of auto engine blocks - but should work for clutch pulling too...)

Good luck.

(Get ready now for the bad jokes about wet TP and holes...)

winter brew · Apr 12, 2009

If you don't have a puller, you can try a bolt that has the same threads as the puller portion on the inside of the clutch.....then do the teflon tape/water thing.

Lucky Lyle · Apr 12, 2009

Another tip, since it is Easter it should be Holy Water.

76FOMOCO · Apr 12, 2009

Lucky Lyle said:
Another tip, since it is Easter it should be Holy Water.

LMAO
I have cursed the holy water for not getting the clutch off!

SLEDIOT · Apr 12, 2009

Never use water always use an oil based product if you want to hydraulic yer primary off. Not suppose to use primary bolt either. Use any oil and clutch puller and it will just pop right off. Ive used this method many times with out a problem...............

spring snow hero · Apr 12, 2009

you can use any liquid....water, beer, oil.......grease.......it matters not, liquids do not compress. use a 3/4nf bolt IIRC and 6-8 layers of tape. you might still have to give it a tap to get it to pop.

WyoBoy1000 · Apr 12, 2009

Get a impact gun run in the bolt as far as you dare, then smack it with a hammer. always works for me.

Ausm7499 · Apr 12, 2009

Thanks guys I will go buy a different bolt. What is the deal are the threads on the clutch bolt slightly different then the threads on the clutch?

WyoBoy1000 · Apr 12, 2009

the clutch bolt gos into the crank and the puller gos into the clutch and pushes on the crank

diggerdown · Apr 13, 2009

I guess I better learn to read a little more carefully, just never thought someone would try using the retaining bolt to pull with.

76FOMOCO · Apr 13, 2009

diggerdown said:
i guess i better learn to read a little more carefully, just never thought someone would try using the retaining bolt to pull with.

lmao!!

ericbigbore · Apr 13, 2009

Why don't you just buy a puller?

Ausm7499 · Apr 13, 2009

I don't think some of you are understanding this concept of using water pressure to push the clutch off of the tapered shaft. I was not trying to use the clutch bolt to push against the crank. The concept is that if you fill the hole in the clutch with water and use teflon tape to seal the threads that the added volume (bolt being threaded into the clutch) will create enough pressure to push the clutch off. Being that water is an incompressible fluid when the bolt is threaded in it creates a lot of pressure given that the water has already occupied any volume (space) that is available.

What I did not know is that the threads in the clutch are different from those in the crank.

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