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Your not running a control box of some sort?
M1000 Clutching setup list
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Your not running a control box of some sort?
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08 M1000
SLP Single, RK TEK head and secondary mod, 57/63 gears, 162" Challenger Extreme, Cutler cold air intake, boondocker.
7-9K ft. elevation.
175/lb rider.
Titanium yellow/green primary spring
SLP 77 grm MTX wts. with 1 gram rivet in outer hole.
Cat green sno pro spring in secondary in middle hole.
36 degree helix.
046 belt
Pulls 7500 rpm (+/- 50) on hard pull in the powder
SLP Single, RK TEK head and secondary mod, 57/63 gears, 162" Challenger Extreme, Cutler cold air intake, boondocker.
7-9K ft. elevation.
175/lb rider.
Titanium yellow/green primary spring
SLP 77 grm MTX wts. with 1 gram rivet in outer hole.
Cat green sno pro spring in secondary in middle hole.
36 degree helix.
046 belt
Pulls 7500 rpm (+/- 50) on hard pull in the powder
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08 1liter 83grm 162 track 7450 rpms @ 4500' runs great
08 M1000 sno-pro
Weight- 240lbs with gear
3 Arm clutch
060 belt
7000 to 9000 feet
75-85 g Cutler Quick Shift with no added weight
Stk yellow white primary spring
Cutler Secondary Convert- 42-36 helix, red-white in middle hole
RPM about 7350- 7400 WOT climbing to about 9000'.
Trackspeed unknown, sorry forgot to look.
Did the secondary convert first, sled performed a bit smoother but not as 'spectacular' as some people mentioned. Lost about 400rpm out of the motor running that 060 belt and the stock 80gram weights. Called Cutler to see what they thought, they recommended me to swap in my quick shift weights I had and run the 3/8" set screws. That got me about 200rpm on the engine. Later removed all set screws and ran strong at that perfect rpm.
Kinda wanting to run the 046 belt and add some weight to the heels of those quick shifts. Might re-shim the primary to start though and go from there.
Engagement rpm is about 4000. Would like to see it a lot lower.
Weight- 240lbs with gear
3 Arm clutch
060 belt
7000 to 9000 feet
75-85 g Cutler Quick Shift with no added weight
Stk yellow white primary spring
Cutler Secondary Convert- 42-36 helix, red-white in middle hole
RPM about 7350- 7400 WOT climbing to about 9000'.
Trackspeed unknown, sorry forgot to look.
Did the secondary convert first, sled performed a bit smoother but not as 'spectacular' as some people mentioned. Lost about 400rpm out of the motor running that 060 belt and the stock 80gram weights. Called Cutler to see what they thought, they recommended me to swap in my quick shift weights I had and run the 3/8" set screws. That got me about 200rpm on the engine. Later removed all set screws and ran strong at that perfect rpm.
Kinda wanting to run the 046 belt and add some weight to the heels of those quick shifts. Might re-shim the primary to start though and go from there.
Engagement rpm is about 4000. Would like to see it a lot lower.
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ypipe and can
boosted1 i see you are running a y pipe and can are you using a boondocker box.I`ve got the same sled 08 sno pro 1000 jaws can and d&d ypipe does any body knows if i need to run a boondocker box
boosted1 i see you are running a y pipe and can are you using a boondocker box.I`ve got the same sled 08 sno pro 1000 jaws can and d&d ypipe does any body knows if i need to run a boondocker box
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2007 m1000 153
4-75 gram weights pulls 7500 rmp elevation 3000-7500
rktech secondary 36 degree helix red/white spring
black diamond rock rollers
v-force 3 reeds
boondocker box
ecu reflashed
dd y-pipe
dd regulator
ppp lite weight can
pipe ceramic coated
sno-pro air box
ice scratcher
snow eleminators (powder coated black)
boss seat high rise
simmon skis
side vent
front hood vents
sled rock
big bore the only way 2 go:beer;
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4-75 gram weights pulls 7500 rmp elevation 3000-7500
rktech secondary 36 degree helix red/white spring
black diamond rock rollers
v-force 3 reeds
boondocker box
ecu reflashed
dd y-pipe
dd regulator
ppp lite weight can
pipe ceramic coated
sno-pro air box
ice scratcher
snow eleminators (powder coated black)
boss seat high rise
simmon skis
side vent
front hood vents
sled rock
big bore the only way 2 go:beer;
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I Was Running A Control Box But It Made It Run Rich.took It Off And Put Egt's On And Its Night And Day.the Thing Has Stretched My Arms.my Coat Doesent Fit Any More.long Hill Climbs And The Highest Temps Are 1150. 0-3000 Ft.
Im running the RKT secondary and keep recking my backshift rollers, am I twisting it to far when I put it together or what? anyone have any info? How far do you have to turn the spring when you put the 4 nuts on? 90deg.?
thanks Im ready to give up.
thanks Im ready to give up.
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It depends on which hole your running the spring, but wiith the spring in the middle hole I would guess that you would turn the cover around 90 degrees. I would change my roller to black diamond hard rock or high torque brand rollers. The stock rollers are soft, and will get flat spots quickly especially if you are running a stiff spring or have a lot of heat in your secondary (which I think most everyone does).
If you are ruining rollers then your clutching is off. Sure, the stockers are soft, but if your clutch right they should last at one season of serious abuse. I'd venture to guess that if your running a T-kit secondary most are running to light of secondary spring...
I have rockhard rollers and the snopro green spring. I have tried the middle hole, to slow of up shift. The second to middle seemed to work the best but it damaged a set of rollers. any ideas? could it possibly be the distance from the diamond drive and its pulling on the wrong side of the clutch, anyone have some measurments I could use to check with?
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6-9000ft
speewerx y pipe
speedwerx ceramic coated pipe
speedwerx can
v-force 3's
RKT head
RKT secondary kit
34 degree helix
Cat red/white & Cat yellow/white
Vohx mod air box/venting
boondockers box
full holz float rear
Boss seat
3 inch risers
side panel vents
slp flowrites throughout sled
D&D bullseyes throughout sled
046 belts
all hood weight and ducting removed
Pulls 74-7500rpm all day long even after numerous long pulls with feet of fresh. No clutch issues whatsoever not even flattened rollers like people mention. Only problem is last ride reverse on diamond drive fugged up and warranty past by a week and dealer out here tells me fork out cash from my pocket to fix. What a crock of crap,oh yah a lil bog/stumble at lower rpms because I think power valves are not reacting quick enough. This problem just needs to be tuned out other than that sled flat out rocks. Works so well going to keep it another year as its paid for and probably a big bore 12 kit with nos or a turbo going on it. Maybe better yet a turbo 12 kit with the juice.
speewerx y pipe
speedwerx ceramic coated pipe
speedwerx can
v-force 3's
RKT head
RKT secondary kit
34 degree helix
Cat red/white & Cat yellow/white
Vohx mod air box/venting
boondockers box
full holz float rear
Boss seat
3 inch risers
side panel vents
slp flowrites throughout sled
D&D bullseyes throughout sled
046 belts
all hood weight and ducting removed
Pulls 74-7500rpm all day long even after numerous long pulls with feet of fresh. No clutch issues whatsoever not even flattened rollers like people mention. Only problem is last ride reverse on diamond drive fugged up and warranty past by a week and dealer out here tells me fork out cash from my pocket to fix. What a crock of crap,oh yah a lil bog/stumble at lower rpms because I think power valves are not reacting quick enough. This problem just needs to be tuned out other than that sled flat out rocks. Works so well going to keep it another year as its paid for and probably a big bore 12 kit with nos or a turbo going on it. Maybe better yet a turbo 12 kit with the juice.
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Year: 2007 M1000 153"
Mods:Speedwerx pipe,y-pipe and can,RKT13:1 head,My own airintake+porting with pretty high durations...Boss seat,Boondocker,Digatron,
Rider weight:190+gear
Track:stock
Altitude:0-4500ft
Weights:4x70g (70-80 adj cutlers)
Primary spring;stock yellow
Helix:RKT 40 degree w/green spring
7800rpm at 2500ft.Runs strong,Backshift good,And accs to 100mph topspeed instantly,no heitations to get in to clutch overratio.Have some isuess with the engine I`m not satisfyed with,will post that in a new tread.Will also do some more testing with lower durations porting.
Did more testing/tuning/reconfiguring the porting endet up with 4 77gCutlers adj at 7800rpm.
Mods:Speedwerx pipe,y-pipe and can,RKT13:1 head,My own airintake+porting with pretty high durations...Boss seat,Boondocker,Digatron,
Rider weight:190+gear
Track:stock
Altitude:0-4500ft
Weights:4x70g (70-80 adj cutlers)
Primary spring;stock yellow
Helix:RKT 40 degree w/green spring
7800rpm at 2500ft.Runs strong,Backshift good,And accs to 100mph topspeed instantly,no heitations to get in to clutch overratio.Have some isuess with the engine I`m not satisfyed with,will post that in a new tread.Will also do some more testing with lower durations porting.
Did more testing/tuning/reconfiguring the porting endet up with 4 77gCutlers adj at 7800rpm.
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More o8 m1000 info here would be greatly appreciated.
TTT -
Would love to see some more m1000 clutching setups after another full season with these sleds on the snow.
Thanks!
Would love to see some more m1000 clutching setups after another full season with these sleds on the snow.
Thanks!
Year
-2007
Mods
- Jaws Twinns, V-Force Reeds Firebreather intake, AI Fuel control Box
Rider weight
-280
Track
-162"
Altitude
3000-6000
Weights
-3-75 Gram cutler adjustables - no weight added - 08 Primary
Primary spring
-Stock Yellow
Helix
-RKT Straight 38
Secondary spring
-Cutler Red/White Torsion Spring
Gearing
-57/63 Blackdiamond Extreme gears
General thoughts about the performance
This setup is finally working and works up and down the mountain and consistant, Had a boondocker fuel controller seemed inconsistant while going up and down in elevation, clutching was also inconsistant with other setups in varying snow conditions, I believe the gearing is one major factor and the Torsion setup is also good but I could not get anything to work decent till I got the M8 Gear Ratio. I believe now that this is the way to go for clutching.
-2007
Mods
- Jaws Twinns, V-Force Reeds Firebreather intake, AI Fuel control Box
Rider weight
-280
Track
-162"
Altitude
3000-6000
Weights
-3-75 Gram cutler adjustables - no weight added - 08 Primary
Primary spring
-Stock Yellow
Helix
-RKT Straight 38
Secondary spring
-Cutler Red/White Torsion Spring
Gearing
-57/63 Blackdiamond Extreme gears
General thoughts about the performance
This setup is finally working and works up and down the mountain and consistant, Had a boondocker fuel controller seemed inconsistant while going up and down in elevation, clutching was also inconsistant with other setups in varying snow conditions, I believe the gearing is one major factor and the Torsion setup is also good but I could not get anything to work decent till I got the M8 Gear Ratio. I believe now that this is the way to go for clutching.
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I am running the 07 with the 08 mapping. With the Y pipe and BMP can.
I believe stock fuel pressure is in the 45psi range. Mine burned down with 48.5psi. So my suggestion is you better run a controler or fuel pressure regulator.
didn't want to hyjack the thread.
Back to the main topic!!
Thunder
stock 2007
Year 2007
Mods SLP can
Rider weight 130
Track 153
Altitude 5000-9000
Weights 80g in 3-arm 2008 clutch
Primary spring stock
Helix stock
Secondary spring stock
General thoughts about the performance: pulls hard, runs 7460RPM at 7000ft altitude, engagement lower than 4 post w/69g weights. doesn't seem as snappy as it was with the 4 post.
any suggestions on what to do? I am thinking about going to heavier weights, but what else should I look at?
Year 2007
Mods SLP can
Rider weight 130
Track 153
Altitude 5000-9000
Weights 80g in 3-arm 2008 clutch
Primary spring stock
Helix stock
Secondary spring stock
General thoughts about the performance: pulls hard, runs 7460RPM at 7000ft altitude, engagement lower than 4 post w/69g weights. doesn't seem as snappy as it was with the 4 post.
any suggestions on what to do? I am thinking about going to heavier weights, but what else should I look at?
After three days of riding here's my setup so far. I will be adding more soon enough:
2008 Sno Pro M1000 153"
Stock ti y/w 83g three post primary
Stock ti orange and straight 36 helix.
only changed the belt to an 046 which helped me pickup 200 rpms.
Pulls very hard for a stock sled, spinning around 7300 rpms at 7000ft. rpms do bounce a bit and not to consistant. every sled i raced this weekend i beat, even a piped 07 M1000. I think i'll be trying a torsion kit with a stiff spring (SP green) and a straight 36 to try and keep things more consistant. Very impressed with the power so far, and i will definitely be increasing it!
Mods to come:
SLP pipe set
BDX Black boxx
BD box
EGTs
2008 Sno Pro M1000 153"
Stock ti y/w 83g three post primary
Stock ti orange and straight 36 helix.
only changed the belt to an 046 which helped me pickup 200 rpms.
Pulls very hard for a stock sled, spinning around 7300 rpms at 7000ft. rpms do bounce a bit and not to consistant. every sled i raced this weekend i beat, even a piped 07 M1000. I think i'll be trying a torsion kit with a stiff spring (SP green) and a straight 36 to try and keep things more consistant. Very impressed with the power so far, and i will definitely be increasing it!
Mods to come:
SLP pipe set
BDX Black boxx
BD box
EGTs
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