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sled*dunk

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Wilderness designation proposed for Fremont, New Fork Lakes, Wyoming Range (posted 4/21/09)

Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (H.R. 980)
Dawn Ballou, Pinedale Online!

Under a new proposed House bill, wilderness proponents are hoping to get 24-million additional acres of public land in five states in the northern Rockies under federal wilderness protection. States impacted are Wyoming , Montana , Idaho , Oregon and Washington . The proposal includes significant increases to existing wilderness acreage in Sublette County, Wyoming, resulting in a significant reduction of areas open to outdoor recreation activities such as snowmobiling, boating, ATV vehicle use, and mountain biking.

The new legislation is called the "Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act" (H.R. 980) and was introduced in February, 2009, by Representative Carol Maloney, a Democrat from New York, and Congressman Raul Grijavala, a Democrat from Arizona (who is also Chairman of the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests, and Public Lands).

The bill greatly expands the amount of federal land that has tight restrictions on allowed human activities, limited access, no new development, and is closed to motorized and off-road vehicle use, mineral exploration, logging, road construction, and timber harvesting. The bill is co-sponsored by 69 legislators, none of whom are from Wyoming , Montana , Idaho or Oregon . Washington has two legislators supporting this bill. (Co-Sponsors)

The objective is to protect important wildlife habitat and sensitive species, scenic values, connect biological corridors, remove roads, replant forest clear cuts, and include new eligible waters to the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System. The bill is touted as adding new jobs related to the restoration and road removal programs, saving taxpayers millions of dollars by eliminating government subsidized development in wilderness areas, and is predicted to create a more sustainable economic base for the local communities near the new wilderness lands.

If passed, Sublette County would see its existing wilderness areas expanded to include Bridger-Teton National Forest land surrounding Fremont Lake , Half Moon Lake , Willow Lake , New Fork Lake , Green River Lakes and large portions of the Wyoming Range . In addition, new areas that would come under wilderness management include Big Sandy Opening, Hoback Canyon , and land managed by the Bureau of Land Management in Scab Creek.
The concept and legislation for this proposal are not new. This legislation has been a dream of wilderness proponents for over 15 years. First introduced in 1992, the House Natural Resources Committee held hearings in 1994, but no other actions were taken for over ten years. There have been repeated attempts to revive legislation by a host of co-sponsors with the support of a number of environmental groups, however it has never been passed.

The intent of the 2009 bill, H.R. 980, is: "To designate certain National Forest System lands and public lands under the jurisdiction of the Secretary of the Interior in the States of Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, and Wyoming as wilderness, wild and scenic rivers, wildland recovery areas, and biological connecting corridors, and for other purposes."

Groups and individuals supporting the proposed legislation include the Alliance for the Wild Rockies, the Sierra Club, National Audubon Society, Wyoming Wildlife Federation, Idaho Sportsmen Coalition, Association of Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics (OR), Blackfeet Crazy Dogs Society (MT), Cabinet Resources Group (MT), Friends of the West (ID), Earth Ministry (WA), former President Jimmy Carter, and pop music singer Carol King.

The bill specifically mentions these areas as proposed wilderness or additions as wild/scenic rivers:

- 86,000 acres proposed as the South Wyoming Range Wilderness for land administered by the Bridger-Teton National Forest .
- 230,000 acres Bridger-Teton National Forest and Bureau of Land Management lands (Scab Creek) to be incorporated into the Bridger Wilderness.
- 15,000 acres proposed as Little Sheep Mountain Wilderness for land administered by the Bridger-Teton National Forest .
- 106,000 acres incorporated into the Gros Ventre Wilderness including 24,000 acres in Shoal Creek, plus 82,000 acres of other Gros Ventre area additions.
- 18,000 acres proposed as the Monument Ridge Wilderness for land administered by the Bridger-Teton National Forest .
- 249,000 acres proposed as the Salt River Range Wilderness for land administered by the Bridger-Teton National Forest .
- 178,000 acres proposed as the Commissary Ridge Wilderness for land administered by the Bridger-Teton National Forest .
- 5,000 acres proposed as the Little Cottonwood Wilderness for land administered by the Bridger-Teton National Forest .
- 1,000 acres proposed as the North Mountain Wilderness for land administered by the Bridger-Teton National Forest .
- Proposal to designate the Hoback River as the "Hoback Wild River," from the source downstream about 10 miles to the end of Forest Road 30710, to be managed as a wild river.
- Proposal to designate Willow Creek as the " Willow Creek Wild River ," from the source downstream 20 miles to confluence with the Hoback River .

In Sublette County , impacts appear to include:
- RV, snowmobile, ATV recreational use would be forbidden in much of the Upper Green, Horse Creek and Big Sandy Opening areas;
- Fishing, water-skiing and all motorized boating and jet ski use would be forbidden on Fremont and Half Moon Lakes (including snowmobiles for winter ice fishing);
- ATVs and RVs would be excluded from large sections of the Wyoming Range and Grey’s River area for fall hunting access. Hunters would need to plan for a lengthy hike or pack animal ride to get into hunting areas and to pack their game out.
- Roads in the wilderness areas would be obliterated and access would be by foot or pack animal conveyance. It is unclear which roads would be closed.
- Mountain biking use (a mechanized vehicle) would no longer be allowed in the Wyoming Range and large portions of the western slope of the Wind River Range on National Forest land.
- It is unclear what would happen to White Pine Ski Area, Lakeside Lodge, Boulder Lake Lodge, and Big Sandy Lodge guest ranches located and permitted by the Bridger-Teton National Forest within the boundaries of the newly expanded wilderness proposals.
- It is unclear what would be the fate of existing summer homes on National Forest land.
- It is unclear what would happen to elk feedgrounds and structures within the wilderness areas.
- It is unclear what might become of the proposal to create the new outdoor college at Half Moon Lake Resort and the Burnt Lake facilities.
- It is unclear what would happen to the many developed campgrounds, boat ramps and trailheads accesses in the Wind River Mountains and the Wyoming Range .
- It is unclear what would happen to access to private in-holdings within the newly expanded wilderness areas due to removal of roads on public land in the wilderness areas.


H.R. 980 will be heard by the Natural Resources Committee on Tuesday, May 5th, 2009. See the links below for more information about this proposed bill.

Related Links:
Full text of NREPA 980 Links to sections
Printable PDF of entire bill 149 pages
Alliance for the Wild Rockies Formed to meet the challenge of saving the Northern Rockies Bioregion from habitat destruction.
Map showing proposed wilderness on the Bridger-Teton National Forest WildRockiesAlliance.org
Map showing entire 5 state proposal WildRockiesAlliance.org
Representative Carol D. Maloney (D-NY) NREPA explanation

AWR Press Release February 13, 2009
Letter of Support to the Committee on Natural Resources April 19, 2009
U.S. House of Representatives Announces Hearing on the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act, H.R. 980 Alliance for the Wild Rockies press release, April 21, 2009

I know there are other posts out there...just spreading the word...
 
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Ollie, I know some people who rode in the Cloud Peak Wilderness area in the Bighorn Mountains, and 5 days later received citations in the mail from the Forest Service with pictures of them riding in the wilderness. The pictures where so good that they had no choice but to pay the bill. They were sattelite photos. If your going to ride in the wilderness, ride a pure black sled with no distictive markings. The Forest Service pays a sattelite company to watch the wilderness and we found out they do a pretty good job of it.
 
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beefspots

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No kidding! That is interesting I did not know that. Well I guess I better go with the all white sled next year and get some white camo gear. This is a very serious issue though! Everyone needs to contact there reps and speak up.
 
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Ollie

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Oh don't get me wrong.
I still am a member of all the clubs and orgs (saws, BRC, state, etc), however.
I am done obeying the BS they call wilderness.
Just use a piece of duct take to cover your sleds registration numbers and ride anyway.
When you exit the area, remove the duct tape.
Let em try to slap me with a fine. I want to see em prove it.
 
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dcturbo

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Ollie, I know some people who rode in the Cloud Peak Wilderness area in the Bighorn Mountains, and 5 days later received citations in the mail from the Forest Service with pictures of them riding in the wilderness. The pictures where so good that they had no choice but to pay the bill. They were sattelite photos. If your going to ride in the wilderness, ride a pure black sled with no distictive markings. The Forest Service pays a sattelite company to watch the wilderness and we found out they do a pretty good job of it.

Get them to post the pics. of them in the wilderness!! I would love to see them.
 
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Joe57

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Tree hugging Azz hats.

This is what you get when the govt dosen't give a ****z about peoples rights. I have never saw such an arragant pos such as obama and his blind followers. Its already started with the BLM closeing every road north of Evanston clear to Daniel on the west side of 189 except the oil field and main roads. Its only a matter of time till they do the same thing on the east side of the Wyo 189. This is the area that we live and work and play in. We put up with crappy weather wind that never stops we have to drive over 100 miles just to go to a Walmart we wear out way more vehicles and burn more gas than anywhere else in the lower US The cost of living is way high, And a bunch of Azz hats liveing in their cushy houses that don't even live in the state try to tell us how things should be done and where we can and can't ride. We put up with the bull****z weather and liveing where you cant grow a freaking vegetable and the constant wind because of the outdoor recreation that we have here Sons a bich's
and the tree hugging bastages want to shut it all down.
 
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dcturbo

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This is what you get when the govt dosen't give a ****z about peoples rights. I have never saw such an arragant pos such as obama and his blind followers. Its already started with the BLM closeing every road north of Evanston clear to Daniel on the west side of 189 except the oil field and main roads. Its only a matter of time till they do the same thing on the east side of the Wyo 189. This is the area that we live and work and play in. We put up with crappy weather wind that never stops we have to drive over 100 miles just to go to a Walmart we wear out way more vehicles and burn more gas than anywhere else in the lower US The cost of living is way high, And a bunch of Azz hats liveing in their cushy houses that don't even live in the state try to tell us how things should be done and where we can and can't ride. We put up with the bull****z weather and liveing where you cant grow a freaking vegetable and the constant wind because of the outdoor recreation that we have here Sons a bich's
and the tree hugging bastages want to shut it all down.


AMEN brother!!!!:mad:
 

jbmilek

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On that note, check this out:




HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009
Please send this to everybody on your list... this is Obama guncontrol by secrecy.


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Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House.
This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.
We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles radio program.
Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying under the radar.
To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.


Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

.It is registered
.You are fingerprinted
.You supply a current Driver's License
.You supply your Social Security #
.You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing
.Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25
- Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.


.There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18.

The Government would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this..
http://www.opencong ress.org/ bill/111- h45/text

It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the wordalong.

FAILURE TO DO SO AT YOUR PERIL!


Any hunters in your family - pass this along.


Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him on KHOW 630 a.m. in the morning.


He suggests the best way to fight this is to tell all your friends about it and "spring into action".

Also he suggests we all join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association, hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA..

This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.





This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.



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