primary belt ?
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TRS has and his review has a lot of people starting to follow suit. search by user name or part number in the PRO Ride forum. i don't recall the exact title.
P.S. Make sure the part number has the "C", as Gates offers a cheaper version with nearly the same part number but the "C" is a "G". And the G comes up in most searches because it so close.
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My experience with aftermarket belts...and I've tried many, is that typically a clutching change is required due to compound differences. It's never been a straight switch....most times. I'm very curious to see how the Gates carbon works out, based on TRS' feedback. If it's a true 'drop in' replacement then we are good.
At this point, it seems strange that there is so much questioning on what the belt and final C to C is for the RMK Axis....shouldn't be a mystery. Anxiously awaiting confirmation.
At this point, it seems strange that there is so much questioning on what the belt and final C to C is for the RMK Axis....shouldn't be a mystery. Anxiously awaiting confirmation.
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Belts for the New Machines
There is no confusion on the c to c on the new RMK Axys. It is the same as the Pro, and the belts are dimensionally the same, but are a different compound. I think the confusion people are having is that the flatlander sleds and the mountain sleds (Both called Axys) use a different belt. The Rush and Switchback still use the 3211177 Belt, and the RMK/Assault models use the 3211183 belt. Since we have both flatlanders and mountain riders referring to their Axys, we are comparing apples to oranges.
There is no confusion on the c to c on the new RMK Axys. It is the same as the Pro, and the belts are dimensionally the same, but are a different compound. I think the confusion people are having is that the flatlander sleds and the mountain sleds (Both called Axys) use a different belt. The Rush and Switchback still use the 3211177 Belt, and the RMK/Assault models use the 3211183 belt. Since we have both flatlanders and mountain riders referring to their Axys, we are comparing apples to oranges.
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So the 4 new belts I have 3211115 for my 2014 and 2015 Pro RMK 800 / will work on my new AXYS??
100% will work on new Axys RMK
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Belt Life
They will fit, but if they are truly getting twice the life out of the 1183 belt as the 1115 due to the compound change, it would be worth running the better belt.
They will fit, but if they are truly getting twice the life out of the 1183 belt as the 1115 due to the compound change, it would be worth running the better belt.
Not if you already have 4 brand new 1115's laying around
Yes, here is my experience:
Gates (not new carbon), Carlisle and Cat 048 compared to stock.
Stock works well until cords pull at only 200-400 miles of tough riding.
Gates and Carlisle work well and no RPM changes are obvious. They seem like a harder compound that is durable but wow when they do go they make a huge mess and completely explode. You can destroy your belt guard or foot screen. Really no warning when this happens.
For the Cat 048, this has been our favorite but is is a bit softer and wears evenly and doesn't pull strings often or never seen one explode. The softer compound seems to be easier on clutch sheaves but you will find yourself adjusting up the secondary more often due to a looser belt from quicker wear. Surprisingly the RPMs are still good with this softer compound too.
On my new AXYS, I will use the Cat belt too. I rather change a belt due to wear than a clutch. The expensive stock belt will be the back-up.
Yep Dealer gave me 2 new spare 115 belts when I bought my hold overr 14 Pro.
Bought 2 more from Oregon Trail when she was having her blowout sale-
I still have my 14 so no sense getting any extra belts since they will go on the Axys-
I never had any issues with 115 belt's 1,200 mountain riding miles last year ! /
I have several 048 Cat belts from the M series day's that are new- and they worked well on the pro last year - way soft- but worked as well as 115
Belts are getting upwards in price- and on my 2013 M1100 Turbo pushing 340- HP when a $300.00 EVO Gates belt pops there is Nothing left but 2" square chunks!!
Them new Polaris belts wont fix stupid no matter how expensive they get.
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We have measured dozens of 1183 belts and they all come in at 1.421 wide. The new Axys clutch's are set up for the 115 belts at 1.46. As I see it .040" Belt to Sheave clearance is way too much. The 183 belt is very close to the old 080 IQ belt width.
I ran the Dayco XTX5020 on my '16 Axys all last season and it's still on for this season. I didn't have any issues with it, but I did send my primary to CCP (DLynn) to have their Happy Face lite weight cover installed, sheave angles check/trued, belt to sheave clearance set, and then spin balanced.
The C to C is the same from the pro's to the Axys. However the sheave angles are different. The long and short of it is you can't interchange the belts as you will wreck the belts and eventually the clutches as well.
