'08 Summit XP Clutch Upgrade

Revdawg · Dec 13, 2007

TEAM Industries said:
We build the TRA Drive to BRP specs and have an excellent quality record with them.

How can you say you have and excellent quality record with them when all the 07's had issues? anyone that thinks they didn't is an idiot. i'm sure you mean you passed all BRP's QA tests.
Do you make the entire clutch or just components? are they assembled by you or at BRP.
most of the issues have been the bushings, rollers, pins, pucks ect.
One of the dealers near here opened up a bag of the updated bushings and it took 4 to find one that would fit! not much consistency there!

this would clarify things.......

thanks,

Skidooer · Dec 13, 2007

Mark -

Please tell us how to make our BRP clutch pakage run cooler. I will be happy to buy parts from you if my clutch will work right. Is the real heat problem due to the QRS? The TRA? Both? I just don't want to spend $700 and still have burning hot clutches.

towny · Dec 13, 2007

TEAM Industries said:
Stay tuned for TEAM's primary clutch coming in '08.

Mark Schiffner
TEAM Aftermarket Division

Hi Mark

Any insight as to the design of "Team's primary"?

IMO: This is great to hear!!:beer;

2THTOP · Dec 13, 2007

I installed the Team Secondary, 2 points for allowing you to be able to check alignment

Visi · Dec 16, 2007

I called both Thursday and Friday and couldn't get a hold with anyone, just voice mail. Any way to get in touch with someone so I can get a kit?

joshkoltes · Dec 16, 2007

i've also been hearing the qrs delivers more track hp, like 1 or 2. its still 1 or 2. Im going to keep my qrs and just periodicaly maintain it.

sledhead1965 · Dec 16, 2007

Team clutches

Does team make a secondary that works with the RER system, what does the team primary have that makes it leaps and bounds better than OE???

rotax · Dec 16, 2007

there are team helixes that work w/ electronic reverse.

I have and use em on mine. won't go w/o reverse...

sledhead1965 said:
Does team make a secondary that works with the RER system, what does the team primary have that makes it leaps and bounds better than OE???

Vertical Edge · Dec 16, 2007

Congrats to Team on making the rollers in the TRA to tight to move on the 07's!

RGM · Dec 31, 2007

Maybe for the 09 spring break BRP could offer a clutchless option at 700.00 bucks off! This would probably be there biggest selling option ever. :face-icon-small-coo

graveler · Jan 1, 2008

TEAM Industries said:
2008 Summit owners,

We have developed a kit for you guys that will drop your belt temperature 30 degrees and allow you to shim the driven clutch for spot-on aligment. It is very tunable using TEAM components. Included in this kit are the following items:

Kit Part number 520158:
1 jackshaft with bearing
1 TEAM TSS-04 clutch
1 TEAM TSS-04 helix with reverse
1 TEAM secondary spring
1 TEAM primary spring
1 TEAM set of billet ramps
1 TEAM adjustable pin kit
1 TEAM top sprocket
1 TEAM 13 wide silent chain

This kit will be $675 and available January 7.

Email me if you are interested.

TEAM Industries

A glimmer of hope for the XP

MtnDoo · Jan 1, 2008

Welcome to 2008 - any specs/info on the TEAM primary?

thx.

actionfigurejoe · Jan 1, 2008

EndlessWinter said:
I dont think I would have admitted to that!
I would like to submit a belt warranty claim for all of my 2007 customers.
$25,000 should do.
PM for mailing address

I agree. Taking on the task of mfg the Doo primary shows a huge error in judgement.

BigRed118 · Jan 3, 2008

If Team made the items to there specs and not Ski-Doo's do you think they would still have a BRP contract? If a customer asks you for a 15g roller but you hand them a 16g roller because you say it works better is your customer getting what they asked for/ordered? Look at what Team has made on there own with there own engineering. It flat out works.

Skidoo08 · Jan 3, 2008

Will this kit reduce the vibration in the sled also?

RGM · Jan 9, 2008

Hi Mark

Welcome to the forum. The best thing I like about the forum is that it raises awareness of different problems and solutions on fixing them. Maybe you could comment on what you think needs to be done to the XP primary and secondary that current owners can do. I would also like to hear from you what your theories are on clutching and mainly in the deep pow. My thinking is that the belt has to be riding about the same height above center on both the primary and secondary to give the best grip on the belt by both. How that is accomplished is another matter but gearing, springs, ramps and weight are going to play a big factor. Any comment on this? I think when the belt is to low in the primary it can slip more creating excessive heat which makes things go down hill from there.

Highhosilver · Jan 9, 2008

TEAM Industries said:
Stay tuned for TEAM's primary clutch coming in '08.

Mark Schiffner
TEAM Aftermarket Division

It's 2008, where's the primary?

chazzer · Jan 9, 2008

Highhosilver said:
It's 2008, where's the primary?

Nice to see we got a Team guy on here. Maybe some light can be shed on this whole clutching issue.

Team primary???

Chaz

fassteddie · Jan 10, 2008

mark. it,s been a month. no help in making what team built(for brp) work.

WFO or go home · Jan 10, 2008

Judging from the quality I have received in the past from the TEAM product I would be 100% confident to say the 2007 TRA issues were/are a design issue, not a manufacturing issue.

The manufacturer can only build to the specs that they are provided.

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