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Ride report Yamaha Sidewinder

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I got to spend a day on the sw & rode it back to back with my viper & i have to say iam very impressed with the SW.
It drives like a 2 stroke on the trail feels very light throttle response is very impressive you would not know it has a turbo the power is so linear.
The one thing that really surprised me was how fast it was side to side it changed direction so quick it was impressive.
Rode some tight trees with it & it did real well,we had great snow to,let 2 stroke buddies try it & everybody was impressed with it.

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I'm thinking this will be my next sled.
I'm really hoping to be able to make it to Yamifest and test ride one.
Boss wants me to work,might be sick though...;)


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How does it compare to your Viper as far as handling goes? Would love to get one but the resale on the Viper is terrible, will probably have my Viper for ever.

I have done allot to my viper to make it handle better but it's not as good as the sw.
It side hills so easy & it is way faster when changing direction,it still needs better running boards a smaller seat & a riser.
I think one of the big things going for this sled is how smooth the power is,it makes the sled easyer to ride than a normal turbo sled because you don't get that violent power that cause most people to over ride the sled.
 

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thanks Turblue for setting up the day. fyi to others I have a viper, turbo pro and an 600 axys in my garage, after riding the sidewinder in rockhard snow conditions and still trying to ride tree lines, if i could only have one and it be stock it would be a sidewinder, I even demoed a 2018 cat 5 days prior to this ride and while the new cat is awesome which i rode in powder i didn't notice a big weight difference while riding and power wise the sw even makes a 180 mpi viper feel weak.
 

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How does it compare to your Viper as far as handling goes? Would love to get one but the resale on the Viper is terrible, will probably have my Viper for ever.

this is the route I'm likely going, handling is awesome i did notice the shorter travel with the 36 but i have 2 buddies who added spacers to steering arm and you don't have to shorten shocks. the viper absolutely destroys my pro and axys on the rough trails and both of those have walker evan piggy backs. no sore back or getting bucked on the viper.
 

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I got a really good deal on a set of Elka stage 5 for the front and will most likely go with the Barcode front end for next year if I cant sell my Viper.
 

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Have a video from my last ride before i start changing a few things......my son even liked riding it.....said it steered easier and rode smoother than his 600 pro rmk polaris...lol....just a good video on how easy they handle even for a kid......


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I’m excited!!! But my new Sidewinder isn’t here yet! I test road a BTX Sidewinder last spring it sold me. FYI I’m a 30+ year Polaris guy. The Sidewinder is pretty impressive. I can’t wait to put the naysayers to bed in my group. They’re already talking trash and have never put a leg over 1.
Hope my sled arrives soon!!!



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Thats awesome....post some pictures of it when you get it home. I know how you feel....I can honestly say I haven’t been this excited over a sled in a long time.
 

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I'm very curious to see how those sleds do in the backcountry this season ... let us know :)
 

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Just wanted to post a quick update after a good 4 days of solid riding in 2-3’ of good snow. We rode a few different locations in British Columbia, in various levels fresh snow and temperatures. Just so we are all clear this sled is basically all stock, besides the 174 and cr resonator pipe…….It was my choice to do the 174 and cosmetic items to make it my own, and never really needed it to "make it work". Suspension geometry, clutching, and gearing is all stock. Im 6’5” & 235 plus gear and cargo so the the extra floatation with the 174 works well for me

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Sled Specs

2017 Yamaha sidewinder
Cr racing resonator pipe
174 x 15 x 3” camoplast 9271
Stock clutching and gearing
8JP stock belt
Elka ski shocks STG 3
Fox Float 3 rear , and stock coil rear skid front shock

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Handling

Front ski shocks – Elka STG 3 preload 10mm and compression clicker 14
Rear skid rear – Fox Float 3 set @ 150psi
Rear skid Front – 2/3 preload on that shock.( haven’t touched from factory setup)
Limiter straps – stock location

So I elected to try some Elka Stage 3 ski shocks…The reason i went this route is I wanted to try a set of coil over shocks vs the float 3 shocks. These shocks do perform well...ride quality is premium through the rough trails to the riding areas. I have noticed that the sled wants to ski dive more than the floats in the corners. I need to play with the compression clickers more and I'm confident it will help.
Deep snow handling they never felt like they were sluggish compared to the fox float but a true test would be to swap back. So more work to do there.
As for climbing capability..... im not looking for my sled to climb a wall…I just want it controllable when doing a technical climb, need to get into the power and still have control. I did manage to find some fairly steep and deep hills…sled seem to hold the ski just off the snow at a manageable level. I never felt like it was wheeling out of control. I believe the 174 does help with this. I have ordered a Fox QS3 rear shock to try it with the lock out feature...more to come on that...
As for tree riding it performed great…very responsible to your body position. I know with the previous 4stroke sled i felt it was hit or miss how it was going to turn out. The Sidewinder is very predictable on how it will react to technical situations in the trees. I truly have gauged the handling of the sled by how tired i am at the end of the day, my Apex I was wiped, Sidewinder I felt no different than my XM 174 T3.

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Clutching and belt heat

We put on around 60-70 miles each day…I burned a full tank and almost a 3.3gal jug of spare fuel…So needless to say the throttle was to the bars most of the day. I did stop once in a while to check clutch heat and signs the belt is wearing prematurely. Clutches were warm but not 850 warm…lol I only commented that because my 2 riding buddies blew a few belts in that 4 days….. As for backshifting and rpm it seemed to be spot on.... when I could see the gauge.

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Power & air Intake

Power was very smooth and responsive….One of the Guys that tried it said he was surprised how responsive it was. We also got into a spot where it was technical through a ravine, trough some trees and a straight shot to the top. For as deep as the snow was I was amazed how it pulled all the way to the top. The riding style with these sleds is completely different that the 2 strokes so keep that in mind when you try one.
I never did install an external air intake as I wanted to see how it preformed without, I figured spending this kind of coin you really shouldn’t have to change anything to make it perform. The results of having the sled covered in snow all week….never felt once it was bogging or hindering the performance in anyway. I rarely stopped to clear the snow.

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Rolling over

Yes I did manage to bury this beast a few time in the trees…lol. Most of the time I was by myself to get it out and with a few tricks it really wasn’t that difficult. If the slope was right I would just roll it over back on the skis and drive away…Sometimes I needed to shovel a bit to get the sled to go over, but for the most part just rolled on its own. I even flipped it over backwards once and it layed on the hood for 10 mins or so until I could get it uprighted. I did have a bit of oil residue in the air filter....It was a bit oily from new and should of been dry...will monitor this. One issue I noticed was when the sled was around 1/3-1/4 tank and facing downhill after a roll over it wont start until I leveled it….Not sure how the fuel pickups are situated but have contacted the local dealer to investigate more.


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Push button start and Munster Controls

Man that push button start worked flawless….Since the key was continuously buried in the snow the button was super handy. Munster finger throttle…well really liking that unit. At first it was a bit awkward cause your looking for the thumb throttle, but by the 2nd day it was a natural thing. Works so awesome in the trees…easy to finesse the throttle while maintain full grip on the bars.

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Changes

I had snowflap issue, but the was because of my custom bumper…doesnt have support for it. I ended up removing it and never had heating issues. The Yamaha tether was a issue also….It kept freezing up on me and wouldn’t shut the motor down…which is a scary thing if your upside down. I am going to take it apart and see if dieliectric grease can help. My skidoo handlebar bag(short one) kept knocking my tether off, so I eneded up reversing it around. Munster reverse button, had a wire pull out of their factory clip…not sure if something really tugged on the wire or their factory crimp wasn’t any good..planning on soldiering it.

So that’s the initial impression and ride report….very impressed with the sled and has been a blast to ride....more to come through the season. Like my buddy Jamie says "Power, Performance & Predictable"

Hopefully this helps and any questions let me know.
(Let me know if pics don’t show)

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Turblue

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Still having a blast on the Sidewinder since my original demo ride. Changed a few things along the way but sleds been solid. Looking forward to another excellent year.

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