Ok so blame it on the clutching, fine. However you guys sent me this clutching so, its still your fault. I know it wont be exactly as snappy as stock, but it should be close. telling a client the problem dosent exist and acting like you have never heard of this when there is a thread on SNOWEST about the issue.... and people on here saying they spoke to you guys about it. If i am going to be field testing your turbo and providing R&D thats fine but pay me than because you are profiting off my time. I work my ass off to pay for this thing and have a limited amount of time to ride and a limited amount of time on this planet. It is advertised as Pull and go but its pull wait go.
Saying Justin would need to try extensively to get the tune right, like its a bridge too far is hilarious. It is literally his bread and butter with this product. Dont release the product if it is not ready!If justin silbernagel needs to try it extensively in the field and on a dyno than thats exactly what he should be doing not answering customer support calls . HIRE MORE STAFF. We are all choked and rightfully so. Silber needs to say sorry not play defense and act like there is no issue. And actively work on one.
Silber will be closed in the next few years, seems they got lucky with some kits so far, but the customer and dealer support is awful. EVERYONE i talk to says the same thing. They are brutal to get a hold of and get answers from. They could turn it around though and i hope they do as they are sitting on a gold mine.
But as you say i guess i am just not a good rider. My bad.
Sorry you misread what I wrote, or maybe I wrote it poorly. First, I never said "you are a bad rider". I was offering a tip as to how to have more fun with your sled. I say this regardless of the tune, the brand, etc. I learned the more I am aggressive with the throttle and brake, the better I ride and the better the sled responds. Just an observation - take it or leave it.
Second, go read what I wrote pertaining to turbo clutching. I've ridden every major brand of turbocharger, and I stand by this regardless of whos kit it is. Turbless Terry wrote the same thing... My logic is sound, and well accepted.
Third, I never said there is no problem, again, I'm trying to offer a few pieces of advice and make sure expectations are in line with reality (again, a turbo will never feel the same off idle to engagement). I'm not suggesting there isn't fertile ground to build upon! But just like in the automobile world, if you want a naturally aspirated torque curve, well, stick with a naturally aspirated motor!
That said, I'm pretty sure we'll get you happy! These things are pretty dang linear once they start building boost.
Fourth, I never blamed clutching for anything. Not sure where you read that? I suggested a turbo sled will feel "unstock off the bottom".
Fifth, you asked Justin for a custom change to your map. I suggested this isn't possible because Justin would need to test this exact change in a multitude of different environments for it to work. I wasn't saying "he won't make changes". He is! He's always tuning! To add, the fact there are Ascenders working awesome says the problem is less in the map and more in setup. My point really was to suggest, Justin isn't working with some big fuel box where he can just take X fuel away from the bottom and reflash your sled, expecting it to work. It won't. He has to test and restest a change for it to be an improvement. Otherwise you can go backwards really fast with the map.
I'd love it if Justin were to hire me full time! Unfortunately, I work as a consultant, and my real job is to ensure his website works. I really have zero incentive to post here except I really want people to have a good time out there. I've taken calls from a number of people in this thread, and have done what I can remotely to help!
