Any Wifi/Internet Guru's???

Spaarky · Mar 19, 2015

My shop is maybe 80-100' ft from my house. I would like to have wifi/internet out in the shop. The shop does have steel siding. What are must best/most cost effective way to get internet/wifi out there.

run a cable off the router in the house? Booster/antenna? If anyone has experience, with this please help!!!! I am getting mixed answers. Thanks!!

Spaarky · Mar 19, 2015

I was looking at this...

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-NanoStation-2-4GHz-Indoor-Outdoor/dp/B004EGI3CI/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_y

newmy1 · Mar 19, 2015

But a wifi extender. Cheap and work good.

Spaarky · Mar 19, 2015

will they throw signal through the steel shop walls?? 20 year old geek squad kid said no way.

mckinney · Mar 19, 2015

Use WIFI router to WIFI router to create a bridge. Mount a external antenna on the metal building.

mckinney

Spaarky · Mar 19, 2015

wifi router to wifi router... how does that work??

mckinney · Mar 19, 2015

The router has to be capable to do bridge mode. In bridge mode it is like hooking a cable between network switches. It sounds like it is not too obstructed, and you can hook an external antenna to the one in the metal building. You can try newegg.com, I just checked with Bestbuy and the rep sent me an antenna.

Will have to be capable of external antenna as sometimes they have antennas that cannot be changed to external, or you can get an external router that mounts on the exterior of the building. External antenna cheaper usually.

mckinney

mckinney · Mar 19, 2015

Attached pic for reference.

mckinney

newmy1 · Mar 19, 2015

By it at best buy and keep it if it works. If not return it.

Spaarky · Mar 19, 2015

newmy1 said:
By it at best buy and keep it if it works. If not return it.

LMAO. THats what my wife would say.

Spaarky · Mar 19, 2015

So would I need two or three routers?

One in the basement. Half way in between and in the shop? With antena outside.

Or one in basement and one in shop with antenna???

mckinney · Mar 19, 2015

A lot of factors depends how good of signal you can get going thru basement walls. Hit me up with the layout of both buildings.

mckinney

newmy1 · Mar 19, 2015

Thus why I suggested you try and buy. No real way to know what will work.

Spaarky · Mar 19, 2015

If you look at the satellite view, the garage is on the side with the driveway. The router is in the basement, mechanical room, center right hand side of the garage.

If you look at the shop, brown roof building. The side with the enclosed trailer is my shop bench. Easy access there. Front and front left has concrete. I could still get in up there. I have some sleeves under and through the concrete.

I get wifi on my phone in the garage and a little bit on the driveway. I haven't checked with my lap top.

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I will go to BB and get some stuff. Only thing they didn't have was the antenna. I don't know if I could get that at Radio Shack or something.

mckinney · Mar 19, 2015

The newer technologies will go thru walls better but line of sight is the best. If you can get both antennas as close to line of sight the best. The better your signal the better. Make sure you get descent antennas. Don't have to spend a bunch.

Minten · Mar 19, 2015

Instead of creating a bridge, I would would set the place up with one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Powerline-Wireless-Extender-PLWK400/dp/B0087O6AQE

That way, if you need more coverage in certain areas, it is cheap and easy to do. Powerline has a range of potential possibilities, including the ability to save tremendous amounts of money, and most importantly, set -up time.

Minten · Mar 19, 2015

Ps. I set up my girlfriends single story, 3500 s/ft with a single adapter costing a mere $20

Here is a cheaper example:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WP...426825293&sr=8-4&keywords=powerline+with+wifi

Personally, I would invest in a 802.11AC router and one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA854RE-Universal-Wireless-Indicator/dp/B00KVIXCCO/ref=pd_cp_pc_2

That would give the maximum coverage, with minimal pricing.

Then again it would be possible to have a powerline network comprised of only extenders....

LoudHandle · Mar 20, 2015

Minten said:
Ps. I set up my girlfriends single story, 3500 s/ft with a single adapter costing a mere $20

Here is a cheaper example:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WP...426825293&sr=8-4&keywords=powerline+with+wifi

Personally, I would invest in a 802.11AC router and one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA854RE-Universal-Wireless-Indicator/dp/B00KVIXCCO/ref=pd_cp_pc_2

That would give the maximum coverage, with minimal pricing.

Then again it would be possible to have a powerline network comprised of only extenders....

Sorry for the detour, but may still be helpful for someone.

Question, I have three properties in the same subdivision each with their own power service. The one we live in is on the South side of the street and the other two are on the North side of the street and down a few lots. I spend a lot of time at the two properties to the North, because the garages are larger. Do power companies use any filters between power services to scrub this type of piggyback signal or could I put an extender or two in each property and only (use / pay for) 1 internet feed from the provider? They are just far enough apart that a traditional WiFi extender is hit and miss currently. Especially when snowing or raining.

Looks cheap enough to buy and try, if nobody knows. Thanks!

Spaarky · Mar 20, 2015

Minten said:
Instead of creating a bridge, I would would set the place up with one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Powerline-Wireless-Extender-PLWK400/dp/B0087O6AQE

That way, if you need more coverage in certain areas, it is cheap and easy to do. Powerline has a range of potential possibilities, including the ability to save tremendous amounts of money, and most importantly, set -up time.

This looks great. One thing, from the house outlets, the signal would have to run out to the transformer/meter, then into the shop. Its a long run, and then running it through the transformer... not sure how that would work.

Minten · Mar 22, 2015

Outlaw Addict said:
This looks great. One thing, from the house outlets, the signal would have to run out to the transformer/meter, then into the shop. Its a long run, and then running it through the transformer... not sure how that would work.

I didn't think about that....

"The circuit breaker panel is the point of convergence for the cross-phase coupling. All circuits connect to the same common bus bars via circuit breakers or fuses. The bus bars provide some coupling because of interbus stray capacitance. "
- http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/mydownloads/plc_cross-phase_coupling.pdf (Sections 3)

So no, anything reverted past the power distribution board will not work. :face-icon-small-fro

So now we will have to revert to a bridged network.
Do you have an guesstimate on the distance between the areas that the accesspoints?

You asked earlier about in you should purchase 2 or 3 routers. Well, I have your solution.
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UAP-...qid=1426959907&sr=8-5&keywords=ubiquiti+unifi
So the Amazon description sucks, but if you check out Ubiquiti Networks website ( https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap/ ) then you can see a theoretical comparison in the range. The model I chose for you is the LR or long range one, giving you a maximum spread of 600 feet (depending on configuration)

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