We run 3 boosted sleds in our lineup- (1) Boondocker stage 1 Apex, (1) Alpine stage 2 Apex, and (1) MPI SC stage 1 Vector. Total combined miles=16,000. Zero motor problems. Blown belts=2 belts in 6 years. Drive chains=0 in 6 years. I replace my chain every other year for peace of mind! Yamaha=reliability! It does get lonely @ the top when all you see is blue, but maybe, just maybe, Arctic Cat will put some pressure on Yamaha. A replacement sled(Apex) is overdue from Yamaha:clock:
Unrealistic Expectations - M1100 Turbo ?
- Thread starter Jeff C
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Neil, it is cool you are liking the new 2 stroke, but how long do you think that a turbo poo will hold up to the kind of long pull riding you guys do every weekend? I would think you would be replacing top ends like I replace belts on my turbo nytro, just from some of the turbos 2s I have been around.
I replace my chain case chain at the beggining of every season and all the drive bearings also, I buy a couple of extra belts form south seattle sports plaza for $45 a piece, where I also order all my parts from and save a lot of $ over my local dealer. Last time I had a Polaris, belts were pushing $200 a piece, and I could not keep one for over 200 miles. I have replaced my clutches once in five years, due to the fact a piece of metal went through them. This is all normal snowmobile stuff, I just think when you start racking up some miles on that Poo you will end up buying whole sh!tload of more parts by the time it equals the miles you have on your Yammis.
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I agree with everything you just said. I don't think it would be reasonable to think a 2 stroke is going to last like a 4 stroke. I did say that we are running these parts on highly modified sleds too.
I don't really believe much will run with a highly modified Yamaha, including the new Cat 1100, and that is why I will always have one in one form or another.
It is good to have options though, and for the money, the cat 1100 looks pretty good.
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I get it Jeff...kinda sounded like you were putting me on the spot! I understand corporate mentality, I have been dealing with it for 20 years.
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I don't see how the 1100's are going to run with the big boosted Yami's unless the owner's throw big bucks into them just like we had to do with the Apex's and Nytro's. At some point next year this will happen, but they're going to end up 20K into the 1100 before they get there IMO.
What I am looking forward to is watching the guys who think they can just buy one of these boosted 1100's and go climb the big chutes. They are going to find out it takes some mad skills to climb big chutes. It's not just "point and chute" like so many believe. I had a "point and chute" guy mouthing off last Friday so I pulled a line up a fairly easy chute and then let him take a stab at it with my Apex. After he rolled it twice and spent a half hour turning it around by himself the third time I figured there wasent much left to be said so I pulled the chute one more time, watched a couple of my buddies pull it and we moved on.
What I am looking forward to is watching the guys who think they can just buy one of these boosted 1100's and go climb the big chutes. They are going to find out it takes some mad skills to climb big chutes. It's not just "point and chute" like so many believe. I had a "point and chute" guy mouthing off last Friday so I pulled a line up a fairly easy chute and then let him take a stab at it with my Apex. After he rolled it twice and spent a half hour turning it around by himself the third time I figured there wasent much left to be said so I pulled the chute one more time, watched a couple of my buddies pull it and we moved on.
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....most likely a whole new kit till a guy is finished with it....what i do believe is that the rest of the chassis wouldn't really have to be changed.....maybe bakers skid....so it costs you 20000 with a turbo kit.....not 35000 for the turbo and chassis....I just dont understand whay Yamaha hasn't changed the tunnel design much on the nytro since its came out....
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good thread.......
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