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Old 05-06-2019, 03:58 PM
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Default Moving flatbed to new truck.....what do I want?

I've got a custom built flatbed made for sleds that I want to hold on to. It's on a 1996 chevy k1500. The truck is fine but I want something with a little more grunt at elevation. I live at 6k and go up from there.

The dumb question: Will the rails of the flatbed fit on non-chevy frames? Is frame spacing standard? I guess that goes for newer chevy/gmc trucks too.



The less dumb question: I don't really want to deal with diesel since it's mostly used in the cold (plus repairs I can't do myself), so what's a good gas truck to replace it with?


I'm not buying any gas dodge so we're talking chevy or ford here.
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Frame width varies, not only from manufacturer to manufacturer but also within the manufacturer's models and yrs.
Yay!
Should be close enough to work on non dually(skinny) and newer f-150s(wide)

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Gas engines, my work truck 2011 chevy 1500 has a 5.3l with 300,000 miles. Still runs good. Power is great unless u tow, then it's eh.....
I really like the power of the diesel but i totally get why u don't want one.
If u get a Denali, they have the 6.2l, plenty of power!
Ford, u can get the ecoboost and have lots of power at elevation.. 3.5l v6 that will tow like a big block. But i recommend 2015+, so more money than an older GM.

If u are stepping up to 3/4 - 1ton, i think Ford makes a better truck but powertrain is equal to GM.
I have a duramax, i miss the Ford cab.

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Ford F-150 went to a 10 speed automatic transmission (maybe Allison?) in 2018. Paired with the 3.5 ecoboost engine, it does pull very good, as it keeps the RPM in the "sweet spot" for the best torque, and is MUCH better than the 6 speed transmission. BUT she does get a little thirsty pulling heavy loads!
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Ford F-150 went to a 10 speed automatic transmission (maybe Allison?) in 2018. Paired with the 3.5 ecoboost engine, it does pull very good, as it keeps the RPM in the "sweet spot" for the best torque, and is MUCH better than the 6 speed transmission. BUT she does get a little thirsty pulling heavy loads!
Ford and GM built and share the same 10sp tranny.

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What the hell happened to truck prices? Eeesh, it's getting ridiculous. I'm actually kicking around the idea of just a new motor and tranny.

Thanks for the input guys. A 10sp would be heaven.

the most I'd be pulling is two sleds on the bed and then a small 16ft camper.
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Ford F-150 went to a 10 speed automatic transmission (maybe Allison?) in 2018. Paired with the 3.5 ecoboost engine, it does pull very good, as it keeps the RPM in the "sweet spot" for the best torque, and is MUCH better than the 6 speed transmission. BUT she does get a little thirsty pulling heavy loads!
The 3.5EB got the 10-speed transmission and an engine design update in the 2017 MY; the 2.7EB and the 5.0 V8 got the 10-speed in the 2019 MY.

If you're looking for pep at elevation, the 3.5EB is probably your best bet amongst the F-150 options (the V8 is capable but suffers at elevation like any normally aspirated engine), but a two-sled deck is likely to put you*near your payload limit even before you add the trailer tongue weight. A lightly-optioned XL or XLT might work, and an HDPP (the "heavy half" option, payload often over 2k pounds) would probably work but is tough to find on a lot. Keep in mind when considering payload that the 2015+ Fords have aluminum beds, so the net weight removing the factory bed and putting your flatbed on is going to be different (probably significantly so) compared to pulling a steel bed off an older truck and putting the flatbed on.

As far as frame-rail layouts go, for Ford, you can check the BBAS at https://fordbbas.com/publications for the layout guides for at least the last several model years (for several models).
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With a little modification you can make a flatbed fit anything. I'm on a farm and put a 72 Chev to a 97 Ford and then onto an 02 Chev.

I built one for a 90 Ford and transferred to a 96 Ford and then to an 02 Chev, 05 Chev, 08 Chev, and now on a 17 Chev. With minor work they can fit anything. Like you say I custom built the bed to my specs and as long as it is straight it is what I like best. Move it to a new pickup and I give it a fresh coat of paint. When the pickups go back down the road they have a nice looking almost showroom box put back on them to trade off.
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If you're gonna go to gas, the 6.0l GM motor is pretty damn tough. It's not a dyno queen that puts up astonishing numbers but you can pick one up for a good price and it has a good flat torque curve.
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