Turbo11t just seen that pic on hcs. Look good. As for the belt twisting read a post on hcs that if both clutches are shifted out and the belt has a twist it is a align ment problem. Not sure if it makes sence, just repeating what I read.
Proper belt deflection on my 2013 1100T forces belt too low into secondary
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put another 86km on my 082 belt yesterday, still looks good.
O
Just so you guys know we put another 50 miles on the XS809 belt and is as good as new.
K
has everybody called cat yet?
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Let the know your blowing belts and pizzed off.
Guy I talked to had 8 calls before noon regarding this. He said they are compiling a list. Told him about the ****ed up fuel gauge readings too.
204 982 1651
Let the know your blowing belts and pizzed off.
Guy I talked to had 8 calls before noon regarding this. He said they are compiling a list. Told him about the ****ed up fuel gauge readings too.
C
You guys trying the XS809 belt, how much are you needing to change the primary weights compared to the stock cat belt?
O
We never changed anything in the primary clutch. Changed the spacers in the secondary but
that was it.
that was it.
This is the original 082 with just under 300 miles.
I replaced it yesterday due to this inspection.
Anybody know what causes this wear?
Not complaining about 250 miles but never really have seen a belt wear like this.
Heat?
Inside of the secondary is clean and there is no black marks or evidence of bottoming out.
I replaced it yesterday due to this inspection.
Anybody know what causes this wear?
Not complaining about 250 miles but never really have seen a belt wear like this.
Heat?
Inside of the secondary is clean and there is no black marks or evidence of bottoming out.
W
i would say it would have to be bottoming out in the secondary to rub it off like that.. only other possibility is it is getting squeezed so hard and bowing like mbms showed in his pics...
His sled has no shift out spacer but I had him send me pics of the secondary opened up and I do see marks on the side of the sheaves showing it has gotten pretty far down but the helix and cambacks are perfect no marks. All the ones I have seen where we thought the belt bottomed out in the secondary have left significant evidence on the helix and white plastic cam backs???
Last year I put 780 miles on my 1100T HCR with all the evo goodies and mds weights with no belt failers. This year put a new belt on and it blew in 80 miles so i put a new belt on and blew it in 40 miles. I put last years belt back on and have went 100 miles no problems so i pulled it off today and held it up to a new belt and it is 1/4 inch longer. Cat has changed there mold or somthing because they are not the same length and they are both 082 and the new belt I tested against the old one has 20 break in miles so the old one has not streched that much it is just bigger has anyone else seen this.
All M1100 Turbos I have seen need the secondary opened up with very little to no deflection washers to get proper belt deflection. So they end up sitting deep into the secondary. I have measured many 0627-082 belts and all are on the absolute short side of Arctic Cat specification. Most measure between 46 1/16 and 46 1/8. I think the belt should be around 46 1/2 to 46 3/4. Another wierd thing, is we have several 2012 M1100 Turbos that did well with belts last year...and this year not so much. I believe the heat created by the drive system combined with the heat from the powerplant puts the belt near its blowing or breaking point on stock units. Some guys and some sleds do better than others. The ones with increased power are quickly realizing the limits of the belt to withstand the heat and also the power is putting the overly short belt into conditions it can't withstand. With the shift out spacer in the secondary it keeps trying to shift up the primary causing catastrophic failure. If the spacer is not in, the power, torque, and short belt are sucked into the secondary with equally catastrophic belt destruction. Ripping a belt to shreds in under 100 miles IMO is not a clutch calibration issue ie. weights, helix, springs etc. I think the belt is too short and there are possibly other problems with the clutches....I just don't know what exactly those problems are.
Woody
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W
yep, i agree with you , my sled has the marks to prove it has bottomed out.... only slightly but it has....
Did you take the spacer out of your secondary? All the 2013's are supposed to come with the spacer that prevents it from bottoming out in the secondary.:face-icon-small-dis
I think this is 50% of the problem this year and why it wasn't last year. If we would have been measuring belts last year I bet that is what we would find. They were on the longer side of spec while this year is the short side of spec.
While I disagree with Cat putting the spacer in instead of just making the belt longer, the alternative in most cases is it gets pulled down and catches on the helix. For curiousity we took a 12 that had rub marks on the helix and put the spacer in without the spring. There was a fair bit farther to go on the faces with the belt so we kept shaving it down until it was as far as you wanted the belt to go. The spacer started roughly at 21mm and we ended up at 18mm.
If you shave the spacer down to where the belt is as deep as it can go there is really no harm in it other than maybe your belt goes past that just enough to not make the belt too short i guess.
R
What offset are you running with the XS809? 1.420 for the longer belt or the 1.450 for 2013?
W
i did not take it out, not sure if the dealer did this or not, i have not even looked, been to busy, i will try and look this evening...
P
anyone try a polaris 115 I put it on tonight and it fit pretty well and that belt is tough that was invented for the 900 RMK
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