I am not sure why or where i read it, or if it is even accurate, but we try and keep it below 220,
Generally it is around 140-180 until we are running in snow or something of the sort.
Skidoo 850 belt problem
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Generally it is around 140-180 until we are running in snow or something of the sort.
Belt Temperature Limits (belt death sentence temps)
"Belt temperatures I've personally measured on 163's and 154's
The 288, can take up to 195 degrees, at 200 the chord will start to work its way out.
The 166 / 391 can take up to 185 degrees, at 190 the chord will start to work its way out.
The 383 can't take any heat, it just explodes when run hard after 160~180 degrees."
"Belt temperatures I've personally measured on 163's and 154's
The 288, can take up to 195 degrees, at 200 the chord will start to work its way out.
The 166 / 391 can take up to 185 degrees, at 190 the chord will start to work its way out.
The 383 can't take any heat, it just explodes when run hard after 160~180 degrees."
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Did a 100 second wot pull in four feet of fresh this last week, once I stoped I removed covers and used temp gun to check temps, primary was at 104/230f at top of primary, secondary was 73c.. Could of cooked wpeggs on it for sure
Found out latter belt was slipping in secondary.. Needs heavier spring
Found out latter belt was slipping in secondary.. Needs heavier spring
My question is for guys that have changed clutching using a full kit (Roosterbuilt, DJ, SHR) have you seen any belt failures ? Did you have a belt eater and the clutch kit solve that issue ?
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They have a hard time posting when they have a happy sled. But when its burn in through belts, they on here all day
I bought a very low miles used 17 and had SHR kit installed before I ever rode it. Only two trips on it, with a little over 500 miles on same belt. But I haven’t been lucky enough to ride in deep powder. Sled runs great thou, and is the best sled I ever owned.
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Guys that ride hard are having issues guys that don’t are happy. I predict you will have no trouble with belts on your Canadian ride. Talked to more than one 850 rider that wishes there sled was as reliable and as easy on belts as there XM.
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This is misleading.
You can ride as hard as you want and never blow a belt, you just have to stop and let the belt and clutches cool accordingly.
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Who wants to stop and let your belt cool every 5 min??????? You just made my point.
My dealer just started a case file on my 17 850 for a blown belt, I blew the new 531 belt with only 200 Kms on it and yes I did break it in properly ! Anyways my dealer has had another 18 850 that he’s working on too because it seems that the belt actually might be hitting the belt guard and that would explain why the belt is tearing on the top !
Service manager has been great too deal with and yes he says BRP knows there is a issue here and they are looking in to it ! Only took them two years lol. Dealer said it all comes down to the spring in the secondary and that it not back shifting right and it’s causing slack on the belt which causes the belt to hit the belt guard ! If that makes sense! I’m no clutch guru !
And yes I know they still produce way too much heat which is another reason they blow !
Anyways I’m supposed to hear back later next week !
Service manager has been great too deal with and yes he says BRP knows there is a issue here and they are looking in to it ! Only took them two years lol. Dealer said it all comes down to the spring in the secondary and that it not back shifting right and it’s causing slack on the belt which causes the belt to hit the belt guard ! If that makes sense! I’m no clutch guru !
And yes I know they still produce way too much heat which is another reason they blow !
Anyways I’m supposed to hear back later next week !
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5 minutes? I don't ride anywhere near that long without stopping to let my clutches cool
People that blow lots of belts might ride "harder" than those who don't, or...
When I'm 20 miles out in the hills I treat my sled like my life depends on it, because for the most part that is the truth. If you want to ride way back into the hills and flog your sled till it breaks, thats great, and maybe your sled breaking gives you the moral upper hand on Skidoo, but the moral upper hand is meaningless if you are freezing to death in the hills because you operated your machine poorly and it left you stranded as a result.
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5 minutes? I don't ride anywhere near that long without stopping to let my clutches cool
People that blow lots of belts might ride "harder" than those who don't, or...
When I'm 20 miles out in the hills I treat my sled like my life depends on it, because for the most part that is the truth. If you want to ride way back into the hills and flog your sled till it breaks, thats great, and maybe your sled breaking gives you the moral upper hand on Skidoo, but the moral upper hand is meaningless if you are freezing to death in the hills because you operated your machine poorly and it left you stranded as a result.
Don't think he's saying ride your sled 20 miles out and try to break your junk. Were talking about doos pathetic clutching on there new sleds that they cant keep a belt in. When I'm out riding I'm not thinking i should go easy on my sled i might hurt it. I'm out having the time of my life. But to each there own some people love watching birds in the backcountry too.
Bla ba bla ba bla ba bla ba bla oh and did I mention bla ba bla ba bla ba bla ba bla. It's a good thing you guys can't ride your girlfriend's as hard as your sleds or you'd be single.:juggle:
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Secondary spring is to week from doo, causing slipping in secondary, replace spring to black one, get a 46 helix add a little weight to pivot bolts and love life..belt runs 100f cooler
Doo had two years to solve problem and still not right.. Little embarrassing to say the least..
Doo had two years to solve problem and still not right.. Little embarrassing to say the least..
My dealer pretty much figures the same thing ! Why can’t BRP just recall the spring and helix and save a lot of headaches !!
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yeah... no !
buddy of mine put a kit in, blew belts just the same. sure, the sled runs better.. but a belt eater is a belt eater no matter what you do with the clutches.
good luck.
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also got another buddy who is still on his 1st belt .. close to 1200 miles .. hasn't done a single thing to his sled other than add gas and oil .. probably hasnt even taken off his clutch cover once since picking up his sled from the dealership
rides the same mountains we all do here on the coast of BC ... he can't blow a belt !
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