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I heard thru some higher ups at trexton that arctic cat doubled their numbers from last year. way to go ARCTIC CAT ^..^
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That's kind of funny, and misleading. Yes the snow checks are double because supposedly there will be no dealer floor inventory so that would stand to reason. Get back to me at the end of next season with the comparison of total sleds sold. That's the statistic that will count!!
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I'm sure that some guys now have tried the Alpha and last year refused to take a chance without seat time.
It was between an alpha and another axys this year. Couldnt look past the price point of the alpha
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Dealers ordering floor models via snowcheck, the new way to get inventory 
Dealers ordering floor models via snowcheck, the new way to get inventory
Do you know that's what they are doing or guessing? I was wondering if dealers were allowed to snow check for themselves to create in-season inventory.
They have been doing it for years, allowed or not. Last season the big talk in the Polaris forum was how dealers were not allowed to do this and Polaris was cracking down on the practice.
Every dealer I have ever been to has management smart enough to order specials for their floor. Why the manufacturer would try to dissuade them is beyond me.
Dealers are allowed to order what they want, there is no financing option and warranty starts upon payment. In short if the dealer wants inventory he must pay as if the sled was snow checked and the warranty clock starts. If the sled does not sell until March most of the warranty period is been used on the showroom floor. This is strictly to reduce dealer inventory and i am sure with incentives the previous model years will be selling. Regardless of opinions if AC doubled their snow check numbers that is the true sales for the product.
True yes but their snowcheck numbers will be there only sales numbers for this year.
Yep , true. And is that number double what total Alpha sales were last year? I highly doubt it.
Yes, that may be true for 2020 sleds, but they are making progress on moving carryover stock as well. Hopefully this leads to some new stuff in 21-22, time will tell.
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Because some dealers order beyond their means and are stuck with them, then they beg the manufacturer for rebates at the end of the season.
My understanding of this is different but, keep in mind they have all changed the rules on the dealers lately...
The local Ski Doo dealer has to take the factory allocation. That allocation is based on past sales, if you did well you get more. When too many sleds are allocated the rebates begin.
I do not think the dealers crying for rebates because they don't run their business correctly has much effect on what the factory does. When the factory is complicit in putting too many sleds on the ground they understand this and offer rebates to help dealers move the stock they foisted on the dealer.
I know my Cat dealer was out buying overstock from other dealers this season because of high demand during a great snow season. The dealer down the road from them was refusing to deal on Alphas this season and has 3-4 left because again, they do not understand business very well. My dealer sold all they had and then some.
Even the Polaris dealer sold all of their old stock this season.
I think Textron is up to one of two things, either shutting AC down, which has happened before, or they are clearing the way for new products and clearing out the old.
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All of this is true. However my comment was about spring order only. Models in which rebates are not normally allotted for. I would assume there is a system in place that would help a dealer in the case of a significant amount of backed out snow checks. However, most times rebates on snowcheck only sleds are very insignificant. I can't help but think the manufacturers show no pity to dealers who order snowchecks and are stuck with them. Maybe I'm way out to lunch.. but I found a 2019 Freeride at a dealer brand new last month.. Called about it and found out they had $1000 took off it and only 1 year warranty. So I called my dealer and I ordered a new one with 4 years warranty..
I bought my spring only 17 Mtn Cat as a holdover 1/18. I received the rebates at the time and 2 yrs warranty, also part of that January's promotion. They did sell it do me as a demo sled though, even though it had never been ridden. Must be a loophole there too...
Arctic Cat, dirt and snow, had a big miss to forecast in 18 - Tex is trying to figure out how to make forecast, and make money. The Tracker ATV/UTV will help with that, too. Sure hope they hang in there with the sleds, industry doesn't need fewer OEMs, we'll all suffer. Doo and Poo will just put it on cruise. But snow won't be sacred like it was under Twomey and co.
I heard this as well. Sad for sure!
I doubt it. This would leave them without any winter market segment. And there are a lot of synergies with the sleds and ATVs with motor and drivetrains.
I think they are simply taking advantage of the rare snowcheck process that most sports don't offer. Honestly, how many other motorsports or anything can you think of where people plunk money down 9 months ahead? And if they rely on this entirely, they can inventory and build exactly what is needed for the market. At retail price. Yeah, the price is lower...but that's because they won't have all the unknowns. Running a production line just a week longer or shorter is worth millions. Precisely planning production and inventory timing...huge cost savings. And they are passing this on to the consumer. Also, if they were just going to coast things out and close it down, why a new motor? New skid? Etc.?
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