For support please email or pm Christopher christopher@snowestonline.com



Upgrade to Premium
Polaris: AXYS 2016 AXYS chassis
Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-07-2018, 09:59 AM
jeremyp111 jeremyp111 is offline
Currently: 2015 RMK LE 800 - 155
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 85
Thanks: 1
Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 1832524
jeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond repute
Default 2018 RMK Pro 800 - flickering head lights, handwarmers not working

I had an interesting thing happen to me yesterday and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. We've had some seriously cold temps up here in the Northeast over the past week plus and I went to start my sled for the first time in two weeks yesterday morning. It started fine but the IDD did not come on and I didn't touch anything else. Handwarmers were on low from the last ride.

After letting it warm up I turned it off and restarted. Upon restart the gauge came up fine but I noticed the frost was still present on the hand grips so clearly my handwarmers were not working. I put them on high, same thing. I then went to rev up the sled and noticed that on the headlights flickered, more like a strobe like on/off effect on anything above 2000 rpms.

I ran it around the yard a couple times and put it back in the shed. The headlights were still flickering and the handwarmers didn't seem to be getting any warmer. I stopped by one Polaris dealer on the way home to talk to them about it and they didn't' seem to know anything that might cause it but agreed something wasn't right. A call to another seemed to think it might have just been the severe cold but could be the voltage regulator. I did some searching and came across some info on bag capacitors from a couple years ago but those problems have seen to be fixed?

Has anyone else run across this problem? Any ideas? I didn't bring the sled home but apparently I should have to bring to my dealer... I'm hoping to figure out some things before heading back this weekend. Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks

JP
__________________
2018 Axys RMK Pro LE
2012 Backcountry X
Reply With Quote


Rate this post: Yes | No
  #2  
Old 01-07-2018, 11:24 AM
kiliki kiliki is online now
Currently: Not set.
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Nampa, Idaho
Posts: 12,334
Thanks: 427
Thanked 896 Times in 612 Posts
Rep Power: 21474858
kiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Default

Bad relay. Also sounds like you need a better dealership
Reply With Quote


1 out of 1 members found this post helpful. Rate this post: Yes | No
  #3  
Old 01-07-2018, 11:30 AM
greasemonkey3406's Avatar
greasemonkey3406 greasemonkey3406 is online now
Currently: Hmmmmmm, new 850??????
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Wabush NL, Canada
Posts: 958
Thanks: 82
Thanked 150 Times in 107 Posts
Rep Power: 15505752
greasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond reputegreasemonkey3406 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

This happened a lot to the 2015 flatland 800s and I believe a lot of the issues were caused by the capacitors.
__________________
Common sense isn't really all that common these days.....
Reply With Quote


Rate this post: Yes | No
  #4  
Old 01-07-2018, 02:27 PM
ksright ksright is offline
Currently: Snow dancing
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Malaga, WA
Basic Member
Age: 32
Posts: 50
Thanks: 9
Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts
Rep Power: 236540
ksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond reputeksright has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Not enough voltage in the cold temps? The headlight can flicker between high/low beams at idle when the engine goes into a "safety" mode. "safety" mode shuts off some of the electric accessories to keep enough voltage for the electric oil pump to keep pumping. Maybe the oil pump was just working really hard to pump the cold oil and drawing the voltage away?

Electrical gremlins are no fun to chase down.
Reply With Quote


Rate this post: Yes | No
  #5  
Old 01-07-2018, 03:38 PM
ullose272 ullose272 is offline
Currently: workin for the weekend
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: boise idaho
Posts: 2,542
Thanks: 184
Thanked 332 Times in 228 Posts
Rep Power: 0
ullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

i had the same thing happen last year, headlight was light a strobe light, handwarmers didnt work. after some testing with a multimeter, turned out being the voltage regulator.
Reply With Quote


Rate this post: Yes | No
  #6  
Old 01-08-2018, 06:54 AM
jeremyp111 jeremyp111 is offline
Currently: 2015 RMK LE 800 - 155
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 85
Thanks: 1
Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 1832524
jeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

ullose272, Based on my reading and the conversation I had with my dealer that seems to be the direction. From what I understand is that the capacitor issues experienced a few years ago with the early trail sleds caused a true random flickering of the headlights. The strobe effect above idle was more in line with a voltage regulator problem. My dealer said that the capacitor problem was actually due to the voltage regulators, which is what the fix turned out to be.

ksright, That was my original thinking and I'm hopeful that it was the cause but my friend's sled had no issue in the same conditions. And more importantly, it didn't go away after the sled warmed up. I'm still crossing my fingers though.

kiliki, Is this indicative of what you see from a bad relay? Do you have any information or point me in the direction so I can do some more research on this?
__________________
2018 Axys RMK Pro LE
2012 Backcountry X
Reply With Quote


Rate this post: Yes | No
  #7  
Old 01-09-2018, 11:38 AM
gtwitch gtwitch is offline
Currently: Not set.
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Laramie, Wyoming
Age: 75
Posts: 231
Thanks: 0
Thanked 81 Times in 55 Posts
Rep Power: 2544830
gtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond reputegtwitch has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Sounds like a Load Shedding problem!! The hand warmers and high beam do not come on because of the load shedding until 2200 rpm or so! The dealer should understand this if he (or his mechanics) have been to the Polaris training and really picked up on this! If you need information on the Load Shedding, go talk with a well trained Polaris mechanic or just PM me or direct at gtwitch@uwyo,edu
gtwitch in wyoming
Reply With Quote


Rate this post: Yes | No
  #8  
Old 01-09-2018, 11:48 AM
kiliki kiliki is online now
Currently: Not set.
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Nampa, Idaho
Posts: 12,334
Thanks: 427
Thanked 896 Times in 612 Posts
Rep Power: 21474858
kiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond reputekiliki has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremyp111 View Post

kiliki, Is this indicative of what you see from a bad relay? Do you have any information or point me in the direction so I can do some more research on this?
ac coils on the relays can have this problem causing the relay to "chatter" if the shading coil is broken this will cause the flicker. on the dc relays more of the supply issue. IE VR or cap.
just swap the relays with your buddies sled and see if the problem follows the relay.
Reply With Quote


Rate this post: Yes | No
  #9  
Old 01-09-2018, 05:05 PM
mountainhorse's Avatar
mountainhorse mountainhorse is offline
Currently: CONTEMPLATING: "Laughter is gods hand on a troubled world.".
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: West Coast
Posts: 18,155
Thanks: 8,711
Thanked 9,353 Times in 4,143 Posts
Rep Power: 21474867
mountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond reputemountainhorse has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Helped a guy with this on his 17.... may or may not be your issue.

The brass contacts inside the stator connector were not fully seated in the housing... and making intermittent contact...Worth a check.

Also, worth checking for any chaffing on the harness.



.
__________________
.






Signature:
Reply With Quote


Rate this post: Yes | No
  #10  
Old 01-13-2018, 05:47 AM
jeremyp111 jeremyp111 is offline
Currently: 2015 RMK LE 800 - 155
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 85
Thanks: 1
Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 1832524
jeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Guys, Here's an update:

I finally got back up to the cabin yesterday. It was much warmer and the problem was still there.

I took it for a short test ride and noted the following:
With warmers off, headlights on high the headlights strobed intermittently.
With warmers off & lights on low there was no strobing.

I picked up a voltage regulator this week just in case so I installed it. No more headlight strobing and the hand warmers work. However, I did notice one thing. If I have the lights on high beam, they would dim to low beam at idle. Is that normal for 2018s? I don't remember my 2016 SKS doing that. I could be wrong...I just don't remember. I just hope it's not indicative of another problem.

Let me know what you think.

JP

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
__________________
2018 Axys RMK Pro LE
2012 Backcountry X
Reply With Quote


Rate this post: Yes | No
  #11  
Old 01-13-2018, 08:11 AM
diamonddave's Avatar
diamonddave diamonddave is offline
Currently: <<In-House PolarisTechnician not as involved in the shop
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Thieve Capital AKA Federal Way, WA.
Posts: 4,649
Thanks: 1,153
Thanked 1,484 Times in 867 Posts
Rep Power: 21474853
diamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond reputediamonddave has a reputation beyond repute
Warning You Must be a registered member and logged in to view this response.

Click Here to Register

  #12  
Old 01-13-2018, 09:14 AM
jeremyp111 jeremyp111 is offline
Currently: 2015 RMK LE 800 - 155
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 85
Thanks: 1
Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 1832524
jeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond reputejeremyp111 has a reputation beyond repute
Warning You Must be a registered member and logged in to view this response.

Click Here to Register

  #13  
Old 01-16-2018, 09:24 AM
ullose272 ullose272 is offline
Currently: workin for the weekend
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: boise idaho
Posts: 2,542
Thanks: 184
Thanked 332 Times in 228 Posts
Rep Power: 0
ullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond reputeullose272 has a reputation beyond repute
Warning You Must be a registered member and logged in to view this response.

Click Here to Register

The Following User Says Thank You to ullose272 For This Useful Post:
mountainhorse (01-16-2018)
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Thread — Handwarmers quit working.. Thread Starter — Zone28M7 Forum — Arctic Cat: Proclimb M Replies — 10 Last Post — 02-05-2014 03:25 PM
Thread — Handwarmers aren't working!!! Thread Starter — skyler.hager Forum — Polaris: Pro-Ride Replies — 2 Last Post — 11-21-2011 03:38 PM
Thread — handwarmers not working Thread Starter — crimsonride Forum — Arctic Cat: M Series Replies — 5 Last Post — 01-23-2011 04:06 PM
Thread — Handwarmers on REV ('07) not working? Thread Starter — brahm Forum — Ski-Doo: REV Sleds Replies — 3 Last Post — 11-09-2009 12:26 PM
Thread — O3 Summit: No lights/handwarmers Thread Starter — Llamarider Forum — Ski-Doo Replies — 6 Last Post — 01-30-2009 12:29 PM

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:52 AM.

no new posts