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Nytro or M8

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The wet weight between the HCR and the nytro mtx was only 45lbs!

That may be true I have never weighed my M8 sno pro. My boosted Nytro weighed in at 600 lbs FULL of Fuel

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All i know is that the stock M8 feels much lighter when I am riding it. Whatever that weight may be it feels lighter than a completely modded turbo Nytro

I know the nytro is a great machine. But im getting old and i need a light sled to throw around.

Congrats! I think with todays sleds reliability is less than an issue as it has been in the past. My riding group was primarily yammis for the past 4 seasons. Most of us switched this season and love it.

In the end I loved my nytro. It was a fun build. Coming from a turbo Apex it felt light as a feather. Now on an stock M8 and the only time i miss the power is when it's 3+ feet deep of fresh powder. It's also nice not riding a sled that you have spent tons of $$$$ modding the sled
 
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wilmot

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I think if i was wanting a light weight sled to throw around i would go with a pro rmk. The AC is almost as heavy as the nytro.
 

justinkredible56

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Do Nytro's have the same fuel range as the others for a good days ride?

I ride WOT about 90% of the time and I'm lucky to get 45-50 miles in on a tank. The nytro only holds 7 gallons of fuel where as the other brands hold 10+. I usually carry a spare gas can with me if I know we are going to be riding 5+ hours. Better safe than sorry!
 
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600xc4me

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I rode a nytro for a day when I was looking at buying one, and hated it. Given it had simons gen two skis. But I hated it, I couldn't get the thing to carve, I could feel I was fighting the skis, but how much of it was only the skis I don't know. It would hold a high speed side hill well, but the sled in any technical stuff just wasn't an option, I did get used to the chassis a bit towards the end, and it got a bit better, but I was ridding with an M that day, and switching back and forth there was no question for me. I wish i could have ridden one with stock, or a least normal width skis for a more real idea. But from what I have ridden the nytro, no thanks. Reliability is good though. Great point and shoot sled, but not tight tight boondocking in the trees. Of the two, I would say M8 hands down. But that's my riding style.
 
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KJFarmer

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Takes more than a day to get used to a rider forward sled i think. Rode mine for three days and thought i should just go back to an M, 4th day got a little better and from then on i love it and don't really care for the M's when i hop back on one and ride.
 
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600xc4me

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I agree it does! But The Nytro just wouldn't have worked for me. I was SHOT at the end of that day. Given we rode pretty hard, but I could feel the weight of it. I came off of a dragon, and ride an IQr mod (see my sig) So rider forward is not new for me, it was not a sled that I could see myself on long term. I can hardly ride an M anymore now that I'm used to the IQr, but I would rather take the M over the nytro. Not saying the nytro is bad, or not a capable sled, it just wasn't working for me.
 
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Watch this first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W7C54TXQLc

That's as close of a comparison as you can get without you being on the hill with all 4 manufacturers.

Now the 2 sleds in question are the M8 and the nytro. The M8 HCR is actually lighter than the standard or sno-pro M8 so I've been told. The wet weight between the HCR and the nytro mtx was only 45lbs! That's a lot less than what all the 4-stroke haters on here will tell you! Also notice that the HCR weighs 25lbs more than the pro, but you don't hear everyone saying that the HCR is a fat pig. A timbersled rear suspension and drop brackets will drop around 25lbs on a 2010-11 and 2008-09 saves 38lbs. A full exhaust system will drop around 7-8 pounds and get you up to 150+ hp with a fuel controller.

So you will have a reliable mountain sled that weighs very close to the M series sled, comparable horsepower, but an ENORMOUS torque band. Also the operating/maintenance cost of a Yamaha 4-stroke is incredible!

The number 1 thing I would do to a nytro is to swap out the track...The Maverick isn't worth it's weight in dog sh** and the benefit of a different track is something you won't be able to comprehend until you do it.

Hmmm, the M8 2011 I have is the best sled I ever had and ever rode. The balance in the M8 in sidehilling, the ability to cruise downhill between trees without anything like a wrestling match. M8 is near to perfect out of the box and the only thing who could beat it would maybe be a non stock M1000 or a RMK.

When you bought the nytro and swapped the track, the boogie, skiis, the exhaust system even then its is not close to a M8. Yamaha is a great machine if you prefer it and like the fatique in the end of the day. The M8 is the machine who is near perfection out the box.
 
I quit riding 2 smokes in 2008 sold all 4 cats and bought 4 Yammis kids have phazer mtx, wife and I ride Apex and Nytro Mtx. Just ordered 2 new Nytro with boost. The thing that I know is this, we ride 2500 plus miles a season with 2 smokes always some thing needs done pistons rings jugs etc etc.

With a Yammi once a season oil change. I always change belt at oil change but never had a bad belt just preventitive. Hyfax two set a season Yammis are hard on hyfax even grafite ones. Grease as needed. Thats it in 15,000 more miles I will need a valve adjustment.

I wonder at 25,000 miles when I am getting my first valve adjustment how many motors a M8 would have had replaced.

Pistons rings etc every 4k miles thats 500 then at 8k miles a new engine theres $3,000 then 12k pistons rings etc again 16k motor again $3,000 at 20k pistons rings etc $500 24k Another engine theres $3,000 Thats $10,500 in engine rebuilds.

When I have had 10 oil changes for a total of about $750 and 250 for valve adjustment. Didnt figure in all those gallons of 2 smoke oil at $50 a gallon. and all the extra fuel a 2 smoke uses.

Thanks for reminding me how having a reliable quality sled has saved me money every season. How could I be so dumb to ride a Yamaha. Thank you Yamaha
 

justinkredible56

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Hmmm, the M8 2011 I have is the best sled I ever had and ever rode. The balance in the M8 in sidehilling, the ability to cruise downhill between trees without anything like a wrestling match. M8 is near to perfect out of the box and the only thing who could beat it would maybe be a non stock M1000 or a RMK.

When you bought the nytro and swapped the track, the boogie, skiis, the exhaust system even then its is not close to a M8. Yamaha is a great machine if you prefer it and like the fatique in the end of the day. The M8 is the machine who is near perfection out the box.

I respectfully disagree with your post, I respect your opinion and I'm not trying to persuade anyone here.
 
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