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KMCP said:

I've read this long post but have my opinion... It really doesn't matter who builds the original new motor. But that customer probably paid good money to his builder for services and more times than none received a good product.. What I don't agree with is when modified sleds with race specs, not trail, are sold and passed on down the line, most of the time are abused and had the chit ran put of Em. Some guys maintain well but most aren't capable of tuning a weedwacker. We all know they have a shorter life cycle but can be wonderful motors if taken care of,, lots of life... But these guys that pick a 4-5yr mod sled from someone and usually buy them very cheap, think they have the right to the same treatment as the guy who put down the hard earned 13k for the latest and greatest when it was new,, and usually he does so every other year. God only knows what the hell that sled has gone thru... A lot are sold because they broke, and usually were repaired with the cheapest fix just to send it down the road. We've all been there.. I wouldn't buy any sled that I dint know the sled or owner.. If not, wouldn't touch it. I realize not all can offord it too. But it's not fair for these builders to be expected to warranty and service and supply parts for these motors indefinitely... At some point it's a business and must be run like a business. Lastly.. It's one thing for the builder to fully support the good customer who originally built it it but that guy who calls in 4 yrs later, builder doesn't know him from Adam,, is in a whole different light in my opinion.... When you buy a used race sled, whether it had developmental type parts or not, needs to understand what buyer beware means and they too should know going into it and share some responsibility,,, you get what you pay for in other words! These aren't trail sleds.

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Reeb said:

After reading this thread top to bottom, this is the only thing that kinda irks me.



And for no other reason that it's been told on this thread that there was 4-880's and less than a dozen 860's. I dunno but to be completely fair, BJ should alter his original post to fit the confines of his latest post.

And with that, I've seen Trygstad's motors do well over the years, and most of that is rider. Not the motor. How many times has the Stock(Imp, Mod) 5 or 600 winner at a RMSHA event went on to win Stock(Imp, Mod) King? It's happened so many times it's uncountable, and has happened at Jackson Hole more than a few times(actually someone who has the results probably can come up with a number) but the fact remains that the motor builder does not win races for the talented individuals who ride the machines.

I've also seen some Factory Mod motors that had very little in the way of "factory" to them. Pitiful actually. And anyone who puts their name on those motors should be ashamed.

And my only other point, is that Trygstad built these motors(or just this single motor) in question for Doo's race team, and that's all, as far as I'm concerned, every motor made by a company for a factory squad(Black Magic, D&D, and FAST jump out as the first ones to mind) should never be re-sold into the public. They aren't meant to live long lives, and anyone who buys one thinking otherwise is unfortunately naive.

I've never so much as bought a spark plug from either of these companies, and knowing how SMALL the SW family really is,(although we think the forum includes everyone who rides a sled) there is tons of good and bad from every brand and builder I'm positive.

With all that being said, if I was in need of a Doo motor builder, I would not hesitate to give BJ a call and fork over as much money as he told me to, because I know from his "minions" that he does excellent work. We haven't always seen things the same way, we haven't always understood each other, but you gotta give a guy credit where credit is due. That's why I wouldn't think twice about calling John for any Doo work I would need.

Fortunately I am my own "parts changer" and have a real real close connection with my own group of "parts changers" that have turned turds into screamers so I don't see a Sledheads Racing sticker going on my sled anytime soon. But rest assured if there was a sticker to go on my windshield, it would most likely be BJ's.

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Washy said:

I agree with deaner. This is the type of thread I like. I'm in the market for a big bore and find these threads informative. Bs or no bs. I've read it a few times now.

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