NEW Team Idler Clutch

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Have you guys read up on this yet?? There is an idler bearing that rides on the post of the primary allowing the belt to be tight at idle. Once the RPM's rise and the sheaves move inwards they grab the belt and go. NO belt deflection adjustment on the Secondary. I thought this was a pretty innovative idea.

 

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king cat has this from last year

 

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17' Thundercat and King Cat use it this year!

 

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atv and utv have had this for a while?

 

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Damn I did NOT know that! I have not had a 17 primary off so I would be curious to see this exact setup. This is the exact same primary though? I was just watching a video of Andy Beavis from AC going through the new Ascender M8000 and he referred to it as the "New Team Idler Clutch".

 

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Marble said:

17' Thundercat and King Cat use it this year!

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So there is NO belt deflection adjustment on the Thunder and King Cat??

 

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2017 only the king cat and thundercat had this. Wildcats have had it for a long time as well.

 

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Phizzer said:

So there is NO belt deflection adjustment on the Thunder and King Cat??

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no need, the belt is tight.

 

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2017 only the king cat and thundercat had this. Wildcats have had it for a long time as well.

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Gotcha. So this is the first time they've used on the 800. Does the 600 have the same primary or still utilize the older clutch?

 

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Phizzer said:

Damn I did NOT know that! I have not had a 17 primary off so I would be curious to see this exact setup. This is the exact same primary though? I was just watching a video of Andy Beavis from AC going through the new Ascender M8000 and he referred to it as the "New Team Idler Clutch".

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Where could I find this video? Can you post the link plz! Thank you

 

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Polaris has used tis on the RZR's for years... High maintnece P.O.S. blow a belt & it ends up seizing the bearing.

Time will tell, but I dont see it being a good idea on MTn Sled clutches.

 

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Where could I find this video? Can you post the link plz! Thank you

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It was on the American Snowmobiler Facebook page!

 

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Anylizer said:

Polaris has used tis on the RZR's for years... High maintnece P.O.S. blow a belt & it ends up seizing the bearing.

Time will tell, but I dont see it being a good idea on MTn Sled clutches.

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It is interesting to hear they have been using them in the 4-stroke world for awhile not but not the 2-stroke market. Crazy to think that you cannot adjust belt deflection, which has always been a "setup" issue I feel people fight sometime. In theory, it should eliminate human error on setup and ensure more consistent belt tension.

 

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Guess what else is gone???????

 

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i think it a good idea but should still have deflection adjustment to compensate for belt wear.
kinda a turn off for me until it is proven. the moveable sheave riding in on a bearing, it better be one hell of a bearing.

 

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RACINSTATION said:

Guess what else is gone???????

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The terrible grinding noise from the belt deflection adjuster bolt rubbing on the steel wear plate??

 

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RACINSTATION said:

Guess what else is gone???????

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Ch-ch-ch-chhhaaaaatttteeeerrrrrrr???

 

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sno*jet said:

i think it a good idea but should still have deflection adjustment to compensate for belt wear.
kinda a turn off for me until it is proven. the moveable sheave riding in on a bearing, it better be one hell of a bearing.

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For sure. I would like to see a picture of this setup. Has the diameter of the clutch post decreased to allow for a bearing to be pressed on? Or has the diameter of the hole on the outer clutch sheave been increased?

 

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Phizzer said:

The terrible grinding noise from the belt deflection adjuster bolt rubbing on the steel wear plate??

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I call it my freedom eagle screech.

 

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I rode a King Cat for a day. What I didn't like is when going through tight trees and 5mph or less the belt would squeal and get warm. You could smell belt. I don't know if they all do that or not. Anything above 5mph was good.