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cc I rode your sled yesterday that thing rips rode an m8 at 15#s the day before and I would say they are pretty close the m 1000 at 5#s is alot of sled .
Twisted Turbo Pump Gas M1000
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Yes it was you told me to say that.....Just kidding so what the deal for next year,,how big you gonna go after riding the beastly you had? Terry
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have not been on the new m8 , the 1000 is deffantly harder to handle but the tourqe is very forgiving I will have one of each next year!!!!!!!!
I'm leaning towards a BD pump gas Dragon with small intercooler. 12lb's 100ll and no need to mess with different injectors with the dragon......thats a plus in my books! The Dragon has No lag...None! Instant throttle response.
Now if I could just learn how to ride one.
They're a little snakey some how but I'm sure with a few little tweaks I'll get used to it.
C
Have seen a Cutler M8 kit run 14+ lbs with stock injectors. So, what do you mean exactly??
Same thing I was thinking, I get about 13.75 with just a couple gallons race fuel in our cutler T-m8.
12 is very consistent without 4 injectors. (at least on our setup, it's been very forgiving)
So what can a guy expect for hp out the M8 @ 15 lbs for hp??? You must have to run race fuel at that boost??How about av gas??how high can you go and how much hp? Thanks Much too much scary stuff in the poo forums to run the dragon for me..I will wait until Ken tries it out for a while
I thought the m8 stock injectors were only good to 9lbs or so? Actually I'm pretty sure they do.
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What fuel pressure and fuel? Duty Cycle?
At sealevel the DC is about 99% @8psi on pump fuel.
What about putting m1000 injectors on the m8 setup?
L
Wont work, two different types of injectors, high impedience and low impedience.
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they run 10 consistantly and there are guys running them higher but I dont recomend it .
10 #s with single injectors
wont make the power that dual injectors make at the same boost.
So you feel that even at 10-11 psi where we're 3 lbs below where we run out of fuel that we're not getting optimal power from our injectors?
We're running perfect A/F ratios at those boost levels (it seems really happy between 9.5 & 11.5), so wouldn't that mean that more fuel isn't needed?
Are we talking apples to apples with the cutler fuel system?
at 12.5-13 we're running 12.8-13.2 a/f on bigger climbs. (11.5-12.5k feet, 30-45deg air temps)
This isn't a rhetorical question, I don't see what I'm missing in this equation.
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I have set up lots of sleds with single injectors and they run good, but when you put them aginst one with dual injectors they wont make the power.
Usually I think you do a good job explaining yourself, but this is a pretty strong NON-answer.
How do you make more power by throwing more fuel at an engine running optimal a/f ratios? Does the turbo help a motor run better fatter?
I totally understand the higher boost sleds making the power with 4 & I definitely see a 4 inj. setup being better & more consistent, I just don't get why at lower levels (unless the motor is running lean) the 4 is different than 2.
I'm not doubting that this is possible, I just don't theoretically understand how.
C
What is optimal?? Is this the A/F that makes the most power or the A/F that you were told to run at?? I know Shain has told me that the 1000's like to run a little richer, and make the best power when running in the high 11's to low 12's. Shain, correct me if I am wrong.
Also, better fuel atomization has only been an important factor in engines running better, so maybe the dual injector does a better job.
Not really sure, just throwing out some ideas.
Hey, I just do what the smart people tell me to!! My 8 almost never runs in the 11's, usually 12.5 or so. If that's the case then What Shain is saying would make sense. Maybe I should turn the box up a bit for the lower psi levels.
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I know that is what he says on the 1000's, not sure about the 8's.
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