Plasti dip or brush on electrical tape will make them water proof. It's not the cure but it is a long lasting fix
BULLSH** POLARIS (ELECTRIC RELAYS IN HARNESS GO BAD FROM WATER INTRUSION)
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Plasti dip or brush on electrical tape will make them water proof. It's not the cure but it is a long lasting fix
It doesn't help that they mount these relays upside down. That alone should have been changed for the 2017 sleds.
FWIW-There is another relay for those of us with electric start��
It is located on the harness leading to the battery zip tied to the brace over the footwell
It is located on the harness leading to the battery zip tied to the brace over the footwell
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Factory uses Song Chuan 871-1C-S-R1 relay (shown in photo above)
Looks like it is a 35 amp relay. 104Ω resistance on the coil overall, including resistor.
871 -- Basic series designation
1C -- Single pole double throw
S -- Sealed type washable
R1 -- Coil parallel with 1/2W resistor, 12V 680Ω
Mouser shows these for $2.61 each
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Song-Chuan/871-1C-S-R1-12VDC/?qs=X4N6sOTYzkiqzyaIQ7onUQ==
Looks like it is a 35 amp relay. 104Ω resistance on the coil overall, including resistor.
871 -- Basic series designation
1C -- Single pole double throw
S -- Sealed type washable
R1 -- Coil parallel with 1/2W resistor, 12V 680Ω
Mouser shows these for $2.61 each
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Song-Chuan/871-1C-S-R1-12VDC/?qs=X4N6sOTYzkiqzyaIQ7onUQ==
Hope some electrical guru's on here can assit in choosing the correct relay's to purchase-to at least give this a try and maybe cure the issues.
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That relay shows as "SEALED"... HMM????
That exact part number comes up with this data sheet.
http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/378/871-262010.pdf
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That exact part number comes up with this data sheet.
http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/378/871-262010.pdf
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At those prices... buy 2 of them and keep them in a zip lock for you and your friends!!
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I have been really surprised that nobody has come out with an aftermarket complete wiring harness to replace the Chinese junk that we are provided with. Somebody would do very very well with this if done correctly.
Aftermarket guys are you listening? And Polaris are you listening!!!??
Aftermarket guys are you listening? And Polaris are you listening!!!??
I'm not so sure that the resistance is that critical.. as the factory call out on that part is 76Ω... and the one used by the factory is a 123Ω + 680Ω/parallel=104Ω...
The Panasonic relays are higher quality in my experience than the Song-Chuan overall.
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=UO/x91QLkSAmnhevrmEMKQ==
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The Panasonic relays are higher quality in my experience than the Song-Chuan overall.
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=UO/x91QLkSAmnhevrmEMKQ==
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Unfortunately... It's a numbers game. No need to improve if the number of warranty claims is below a certain threshold that their corporate division sets... for PI corporate.
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Polaris wants $26.95 ea
MH- You sure that those will work for our application? If so I am buying a few dozen- !!!!
The female mating part I feel also allows moisture to breed as it is not sealed at all and water is pooled on the resistor and starts germinating the ugly " greenies"
Before my sled was on snow this year I relocated the relays. Polaris should have done this, but they didn't. Take the 5 minutes to do it and you'll save yourself a lot of trouble.
Pop the hood, cut the zip tie that holds the air box to the over-structure, add a little di-electric grease to the relays, wrap them in electrical tape, and find a longer zip tie to replace the one you cut. Done.
Pop the hood, cut the zip tie that holds the air box to the over-structure, add a little di-electric grease to the relays, wrap them in electrical tape, and find a longer zip tie to replace the one you cut. Done.
It is the same number as on the case photo from Sage above.
I meant to say "buy 20"...
http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0virtualkey0virtualkey871-1C-S-R1-12VDC
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If it were me, on my sled... and I wasn't worried about the warranty... I'd install some of the better quality Bosch fully sealed relays with silicone sealed connectors...
But hey... that may be a bit overboard.
But hey... that may be a bit overboard.
Sage Crusher... Can you pull one of the relays and take a photo of the bottom, connection side, of the relay... I'd like to see how Song Chuan seals them.
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Yea...The relay integration in the harness is VERY "Bush-League" at best...
For the foul conditions that these sleds see... a MUCH better relay and connector should be used.
SHEESH !!!
For the foul conditions that these sleds see... a MUCH better relay and connector should be used.
SHEESH !!!
yup, amazing really...need to be fully sealed weathertite relays, its pretty amazing they do the things they do
Here ya go-
I honestly feel that it is the female (connection) side that gives us fits. It is not sealed where the wires run through it and water travels down those wires and pools on the sealed portion of the relay, and grows the "greenies"
Below is one of the female end with gunk and then w/ relay all cleaned up.
For the GPS model I ziptied to the holder which is near where you did yours. Also greased and sealed with some special tape.
Yes it is a good location for the GPS equipped sleds -
There's even a shelf that the antenna sits on that will hopefully
shed off some snow
I've popped 2 of those relays by the post now. I have since wrapped them in that stretchy silicone tape and pretty much sealed them up completely. No issues since. And FYI those things can be bought online for about 90% cheaper than Polaris sells them for. Same exact relay from the same manufacture. I bought like 8 of them just to have if I need them. At $2-3 a pop, it's no biggie
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