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When you discovered the problem, did you start to sweat, shake and feel sick to your stomach?
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Haha ! We just all looked at each other and said WOW !!
That’s gotta come apart and get fixed....
The big problem with this is this....
I have a $25,000 Power stroke hone with the most advanced
Finishing process for Silicon Carbide ( Nicasil )cylinders, Sorry same thing different title....
We are buried this time and do not have the man power to just Re-hone Polaris cylinders..... our hone is busy doing the motors we sell.
It runs most often 2 to 6 hours per day for next 3 months.
We need another hone.... ( the new automatic sizing hones start
At $60,000 Base priced with out tooling )
Delivered & tooled up the basic unit will be $80,000
And I wouldn’t want that one.... the one to buy is $130,000
Base for full auto ( delivered with tax & tooling $150,000 )
Then I would have to hire a guy to run it.... ( then he needs to be trained)
I hired a new guy last spring and have been training for the last 4 months how
To hone with accuracy & precision.
Honing these ( Nicasil ) silicon carbide cylinders is no game.
And it can not be done with a drill in a parts washer. ( with a budget $400 snap-on Anco hone )
The hone we have us just barely adaqute to service
Our own in House work ( and then throw in our honing customers ) we can just barely keep up with seven guys.
So if anyone thinks for one second we are looking for work
You are on crack.
Not only do I hate honing, I hate the money required to maintain
Equipment & staff to do it correctly.
The process for the old 800 & the 850 is the same...
But you have to stick to the same machines, same guys, same procedure
The 800 had towards the end. ( polaris is a * lowest bidder company * because of the stock market )
Honing is about consistency..... not lowest bidder. You gotta stick with the same guys and machines that work.
Short cutting honing on a cylinder as hard as silicon Plating will eat you alive in warranty.
Plus the tooling... ( has to be broke in ) in other words the super abrasive shoes
Have to be honed for hours and hours in Just cylinders to get them edge prepped ( and round to fit the bore ). And then those stones can only be used in that exact bore size.... ( because the radius on the face has been formed )
My business was almost destroyed by poor cylinder finish pre- October 15th 2015..... because the cylinders Coming from the plating companies
Was destroying the piston & rings.
Giving away well around 200 cylinders & 400 plus OEM piston kits will force you to find the problem..... or you will be gone.
At this moment in time... no one I have ever seen can put a final finish on a Nicasil cylinder like Indy Specialty can.
Not bragging.... it’s just a by product of what comes from a 3 year warranty.
If you are going offer a 3 year motor warranty you better make sure
The motor can make it well past that.
And that’s 3 years plus with guys who live in the mountains and ride 5 days a week all winter. Not just 2, or 3 trips per year.
The finish on the 850 is going to be a death sentence to a 4 year warranty ( yes there will be motors that won’t go down..... either the cylinder was better then the ones I have seen.... or they don’t don’t ride but a few times per year ).
You will be able tell trouble is coming..... when you can’t beat a Snall block
800 and your struggling to pull clutch weight past what the 800 runs...... you can bet the cylinder finish has already eaten your pistons
And the end is near.
I am to old to fear monger..... ( it’s in writing on a public forum)
Sit back and watch..... if its a good snow year it’s going to
Be a train wreck for 850 pistons
And ( NO ) there is not going to be an aftermarket piston that’s better then The OEM...... there never has been and never will be.
The OE BUDGET is far past the aftermarket.
It’s a cylinder finish problem when they eat pistons.
All plated cylinders we get are undersized.... then we torque plate everything.
Dan
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