HELP, Wilderness Alert, Update
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Thank you Tony for the correct time and location. I was given incorrect info as well.
We all went to this meeting tonight and this Hidden Gems deal is as real as it gets. This battle is going to get very real very soon.
http://www.whiteriverwild.org/
http://www.whiteriverwild.org/
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How did the meeting go?
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Can you give all of us the "cliff notes" as to what went down at the meeting?
Hidden Gems is real and we (snowmobilers) need to get together and apply a little pressure back.
Thanks for attending.
Quinton
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Here is an email I received regarding the meeting:
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hahaha, I'm glad you posted it. I have been running so steady I haven't made it back this far yet. If it wasn't for live2ride, mntxr and few others I wouldn't stand a chance. This is defaintly a team effort and we will let you know what you can do for sure. We should have some more information by Monday.
Here the latest info I sent out today.
Hello Folks,
After the letter I sent out the other night in regards to Hidden Gems Wilderness Proposal I have had a ton of positive feed back and the letter seems to be making the rounds. I just wanted to drop this note with a few "Key Points" that you can tell other people to help them understand this.
1. This Proposal is not thru the forest service. This proposal is from private groups that are well funded that are basically paid lobbyists.
2. Since this not thru the forest service none of the usual process apply. What would normally take years is going to take months. This whole thing is going to be decided within a couple of months.
3. The wilderness proposal shuts this off to everything mechanical from Mountain Bikes,Chainsaws, vehicles, atvs, snowmobiles, motorcycles, ect.
4. Once something is designated wilderness, that is it. Game over, there is no reversing it or going back.
5. This proposal as it written will eliminate all of our favorite snowmobiling and motorized recreational areas. As a snowmobiler, the only thing we would still be left with is Baylor Park nothing else. No more Twin Peaks, Burn area, Clear Fork, Jones Trail, Spruce Mountain, Thompson Creek, These areas would be done, finished.
6. The next big thing is the implications of what happens. If we loose Four mile, the Flattops are next. It says it right there in their plans. So just because you don't use the south side of Interstate 70 for recreation does not mean it will not effect you eventually. This is all tied together if one goes it all goes.
7. This is not a "Snowmobile thing" or a "Dirt Bike thing" or a "Mountain Bike thing" or even a" wheel drive thing" this is bigger than all of us. It is going to effect us all. Like it or not we are all tied together. IF we loose one, we will loose it all.
8. The most important thing for people to understand is this thing is 100% real and it happening right now, not 1 year from now or 10 years from now but right now TODAY. The time for action is now.
The web sight for all the info on what these folks are proposing is the following. Go to maps and it will show you detailed maps of everything they are proposing. Everything is there, all locations no matter what county or what forest.
http://www.whiteriverwild.org/p-roaring-fork-14.html
The congress man who is going to sponsor it is here
http://polis.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=4706
As we get our plan of attack ready I will be sending out more info on what we can ask people to do. If you have any love for the outdoors please pass this on to everyone you know. Forward it people like the Blue-ribbon, COVCO, or any off highway vehicle groups. The more people we can get to respond the better.
If anyone has any ideas or wants to help please let me know. Thank you
Sean Martin
Mount SoprisRec Riders
Here the latest info I sent out today.
Hello Folks,
After the letter I sent out the other night in regards to Hidden Gems Wilderness Proposal I have had a ton of positive feed back and the letter seems to be making the rounds. I just wanted to drop this note with a few "Key Points" that you can tell other people to help them understand this.
1. This Proposal is not thru the forest service. This proposal is from private groups that are well funded that are basically paid lobbyists.
2. Since this not thru the forest service none of the usual process apply. What would normally take years is going to take months. This whole thing is going to be decided within a couple of months.
3. The wilderness proposal shuts this off to everything mechanical from Mountain Bikes,Chainsaws, vehicles, atvs, snowmobiles, motorcycles, ect.
4. Once something is designated wilderness, that is it. Game over, there is no reversing it or going back.
5. This proposal as it written will eliminate all of our favorite snowmobiling and motorized recreational areas. As a snowmobiler, the only thing we would still be left with is Baylor Park nothing else. No more Twin Peaks, Burn area, Clear Fork, Jones Trail, Spruce Mountain, Thompson Creek, These areas would be done, finished.
6. The next big thing is the implications of what happens. If we loose Four mile, the Flattops are next. It says it right there in their plans. So just because you don't use the south side of Interstate 70 for recreation does not mean it will not effect you eventually. This is all tied together if one goes it all goes.
7. This is not a "Snowmobile thing" or a "Dirt Bike thing" or a "Mountain Bike thing" or even a" wheel drive thing" this is bigger than all of us. It is going to effect us all. Like it or not we are all tied together. IF we loose one, we will loose it all.
8. The most important thing for people to understand is this thing is 100% real and it happening right now, not 1 year from now or 10 years from now but right now TODAY. The time for action is now.
The web sight for all the info on what these folks are proposing is the following. Go to maps and it will show you detailed maps of everything they are proposing. Everything is there, all locations no matter what county or what forest.
http://www.whiteriverwild.org/p-roaring-fork-14.html
The congress man who is going to sponsor it is here
http://polis.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=4706
As we get our plan of attack ready I will be sending out more info on what we can ask people to do. If you have any love for the outdoors please pass this on to everyone you know. Forward it people like the Blue-ribbon, COVCO, or any off highway vehicle groups. The more people we can get to respond the better.
If anyone has any ideas or wants to help please let me know. Thank you
Sean Martin
Mount SoprisRec Riders
Sean that email and post are a great summary of the situation. Hopefully everyone will help create the necassary awareness of this situation and alert everyone they know to pay attention to this. They are going to congress in 2 months....the snow starts to fly in 3 months!
Here is a quick link for contacting Jared Polis (Dem. Rep Colorado District 2):
http://polis.house.gov/Contact/#wyr
FLOOD HIS EMAIL................this can't happen! Let;s get going people, time is not on our side on this matter and frankly, few things are considering our opponent and their financial backing!
http://polis.house.gov/Contact/#wyr
FLOOD HIS EMAIL................this can't happen! Let;s get going people, time is not on our side on this matter and frankly, few things are considering our opponent and their financial backing!
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I wrote a letter to Jared. http://polis.house.gov/Contact/ContactForm.htm
More people should write letters and send them out! This is nuts
More people should write letters and send them out! This is nuts
The Hidden Gems group made a comment that they are visiting local towns and that very vew people are showing up. I'm not sure if this was in reference to Thomasville or not.
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