Carbon Fiber Nytro Project

ACL C3 · Apr 14, 2010

Let’s face it, Yamahas aren’t the lightest sleds on the mountain. Yes, they are fast, and the list of aftermarket parts is extensive. But to create the highest Power-To-Weight ratio available, we need to shed some of those pounds and put that nitro on a carbon fiber diet.

C3 PowerSports has successfully developed a full carbon fiber chassis for both Arctic-Cat and Ski-Doo. We are now planning on building the lightest and strongest Yamaha chassis ever! This is your chance to help out, or be the first to have one. Rest assured you will have the fastest, lightest and best looking sled on the mountain!

ACL C3 · Apr 14, 2010

Why A Carbon Fiber Nytro

What do Mclaren, Ferrari and The F-22 Raptor have in common? They are fast, and they are made with carbon fiber. The C3 Carbon Fiber Nytro, will be the Ferrari on the Snow.

Carbon Fiber

Carbon Fiber is a lightweight material with a low density and excellent fatigue resistance. It is stronger than aluminum and can be made to form many complex shapes.

Reducing the weight of a snowmobile improves many of its characteristics such as responsiveness, acceleration/deceleration, floatation, and overall climbing ability. When carbon fiber is used to replace other materials to reduce the weight, increased strength and rigidity are also achieved. On top of all that, carbon fiber looks simply amazing.

Nytro Project

Similarly to C3 PowerSports M Series and XP chassis, the design for the first all carbon fiber chassis for Yamaha will have four objectives; to improve performance, strength and reliability while significantly reducing overall weight.

We plan on building a one piece monocoque chassis like our Carbon Fiber XP that will use our integrated fuel cell concept.

The integrated fuel cell or IFC uses an internal partitioned baffle system which moves fuel through three separate compartments and holds the fuel at the front of the tank for consistent delivery and mass centralization. This eliminates the “sloshing” effect found in conventional fuel tanks.

By reducing weight at the same time as adding strength and creating an improved center of gravity, the IFC chassis allows for better overall handling and reduces rider fatigue on long rides.

This carbon fiber chassis will be designed to accept all stock and aftermarket components and will require no further fabricating. It will be available in all stock lengths up to or beyond 174” and will handle 3” lugs on a 16” wide track.

We plan on saving 100 lbs or more on the Nytro. This will be obtained with a Carbon Fiber Chassis, Body Panels and Hood. More can be saved with lightweight suspension.

Let us know what you think, what would make the Nytro better and give us a call to be one of the first to own one.

christopher · Apr 14, 2010

So we are looking at something just like this for our beloved Nytro???

And we can expect to shave off 100+ Pounds?

ACL C3 · Apr 14, 2010

christopher said:
So we are looking at something just like this for our beloved Nytro???

And we can expect to shave off 100+ Pounds?

Yes, the way the Nytro is built, we should be able to shave off 100+ Pounds. We will be using concepts that we have learned from the M-Series chassis as well as some of our secrets from the XP chassis.

Carbon Fiber XP Pics

M5- · Apr 14, 2010

2 Questions:

1. What is your target ready to ride weight of a turboed sled with the 3 banger.

2. Have you given any thought to the option of using the Apex motor for guys who have tired chassis Apexes that they can't sell?

Thx M5

christopher · Apr 14, 2010

You thinkin maybe a Carbon NyPex ??

Duke · Apr 14, 2010

A Carbon Fiber Nytro chassis that would fit a 3" track, an Apex motor, and a midmount/frontmount turbo would interest me.

Superm · Apr 14, 2010

I would be interested in something to fit the apex motor in also.

Duke · Apr 14, 2010

AdrenalineAddiction said:
A Carbon Fiber Nytro chassis that would fit a 3" track, an Apex motor, and a midmount/frontmount turbo would interest me.

I want something more rider forward like the Doo or Nytro chassis, but would like to keep the Apex motor, M10 or Baker skid would also be a must for me.

ACL C3 · Apr 14, 2010

Objectives

Project Objectives

Target weight savings will be 100 lbs +
Full carbon fiber chassis with integrated fuel cell IFC (C3 XP IFC holds 15gal)
Compatible with front & rear mount Turbos
Carbon Fiber Body Panels
Carbon Fiber Hood
Compatible with stock components
Handle 3” lugs on a 16” wide track and can be made as long as you want
Should be able to mount the Vector Engine as well
Looking into the propane kits
We would like to be able to fit the Apex, but I cant say for sure. We are looking into this.

Duke · Apr 14, 2010

I think you would find more guys willing to retrofit Apex's than Nytro's? My opinion only?
Would be nice to have the ability to fit different turbo kits like Alpine, Impulse or MCX. Realize you cant make them all fit.

FriscoProx · Apr 14, 2010

Any idea on price? And could it be ordered predrilled for specific suspensions. And would it incorporate the stock bulkhead cooler and come with rear tunnel coolers.

NM · Apr 14, 2010

AdrenalineAddiction said:
A Carbon Fiber Nytro chassis that would fit a 3" track, an Apex motor, and a midmount/frontmount turbo would interest me.

x2.
I already have the track, motor, chaincase, skid, front suspension, and steering. Plus the rider forward design of the Nytro? hmmmm. What's a 100 lbs cost? lol

Climbmax · Apr 14, 2010

NM said:
x2.
I already have the track, motor, chaincase, skid, front suspension, and steering. Plus the rider forward design of the Nytro? hmmmm. What's a 100 lbs cost? lol

100 bux a lb......you sound like an owner. 10k should do it:face-icon-small-ton

mud99 · Apr 14, 2010

I agree, I would be much more interested in an Apex chassis - more HP and it should be possible to get even bigger weight savings than a Nytro.

I would have no problem dropping $2000 to be able to convert my Apex into a Nytro killer - it would be cheaper than buying a new Nytro.

Mark

Duke · Apr 14, 2010

mud99 said:
I agree, I would be much more interested in an Apex chassis - more HP and it should be possible to get even bigger weight savings than a Nytro.

I would have no problem dropping $2000 to be able to convert my Apex into a Nytro killer - it would be cheaper than buying a new Nytro.

Mark

I'm guessing $2000 might get you a hood and some CF side panels. Probably add another 5G for the chassis. lol

M5- · Apr 14, 2010

CF Nypex would be the bomb.

M5

christopher · Apr 14, 2010

These prices are probably indicitive of what we are looking at for a Nytro setup...

Carbon Fiber

<table class="category-products"><thead><tr><th>Image</th><th>Name</th><th>Price</th> </tr></thead> <tbody> <tr class="odd"><td>

</td><td width="100%">XP/XR Carbon Fiber Chassis</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$2,695.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="even"><td>

</td><td width="100%">C3 Carbon Fiber XP Dash/Console with Upper AirBox</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$1,095.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"><td>

</td><td width="100%">XP Carbon Fiber Hood</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$275.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="even"><td>

</td><td width="100%">XP Carbon Fiber Side Panels</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$845.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"><td>

</td><td width="100%">XP Carbon Fiber Fuel Tank</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$1,495.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="even"><td>

</td><td width="100%">C3 carbon fiber guards for Avid extended XP chaincase</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$360.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"><td>

</td><td width="100%">Custom Carbon Fiber Suspension Rails</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$1,105.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="even"><td>

</td><td width="100%">M & Crossfire Series Carbon Fiber Access Panels</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$295.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"><td>

</td><td width="100%">M & Crossfire Series Carbon Fiber Hood</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$995.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="even"><td>

</td><td width="100%">M-Series Carbon Fiber Chassis</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$6,495.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="odd"><td>

</td><td width="100%">Nextech Mono Shock Rear Suspension</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$2,800.00
</td> </tr> <tr class="even"><td>

</td><td width="100%">RT 1000 to REV Conversion Carbon Fiber Side Panels</td><td nowrap="nowrap">$845.00
</td></tr></tbody></table>

NM · Apr 15, 2010

Climbmax said:
100 bux a lb......you sound like an owner. 10k should do it:face-icon-small-ton

Haha. Thanks. I know CF is light, but There is no way it would drop another 100 lbs off of what I already ride. My Nytro is 560 with a M-10 and 174. That is ready to ride excluding fuel. This project is more for someone who is starting with a stock chassis.

summitboy · Apr 15, 2010

Apex motor would be pretty cool in a Nytro chasis. As long as you don't lose any handling characteristics with the carbon fibre chasis. This should of been done last year lol !

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