Holy snap another long reply from me... Sorry guys... !
just have to add my 2 cents .... Having raced motocross for 25 years i like you wwwaaaasssss very skeptickal!!!!
I personally only ride my hawk with mx boots, knee braces and chest protector and kneck role and 90% of the time with regular mx gloves and mx helmet with a balaclava (sp)! I do have moose heated grip tapes and cyrca bark busters but i have over 1000 miles last year dressed like that and i never get cold. If it is 10 degrees or less i wear ski gloves.
Chances are if your rear brake froze up you had moisture in the line and need to bleed them which is kinda common. Garantee if you ride it you will fall in love with it. I can't wait to ride it on groomed trail.
Try it you will love it!!!! Promise!!!!
Steve
Suspensionsystem,
I have no doubt that I will love it ! The question here is am I gonna love it more than my Hawk ? That's what I'm skeptical about ! I presonnaly turned page on motocross on the summer of '07. Just the idea of washing that freakin dirty filter almost every ride (because I loved riding sand tracks, the last year, that's the only thing I rode, Deschambealt Qc, don't know if you've heard of this track !!!) and all the damn cleaning & travelling around all that... It just didn't made any sense to me anymore to spend more time taking care of these babies than riding them... Now what I have in mind for summer is Jet Skiing and of course surfing, that's the way to go in summer if you've got an ocean not too far ! The girls, the ocean... doesn't compare with a mouthfull of sand, dirt & mud everywhere... i know motocross is not these 3 things but that's how I ended up seeing them... so I quit ! I must admit though that the mouthfull of sand was pretty cool when you're battling with one of your buddy... !
That being said, riding around 10F is still something that can be done OK with mx boots & gloves. But I still think it's a problem to ride MX boot below 0F (-18C). And you gotta think about it: on a motocross, you won't have a belly pan protecting you from the wind, you're gonna have both of your feet & bottom of your legs fully exposed, and on trail riding at a decent speed, you're gonna have lot'sa wind !
It must be pretty cool to ride trails with these though ! I've done trail riding with Hawks and I just think it's a lost of time (don't get me wrong here, I think it's a TOTAL lost of time with a sled... !) I prefer backcountry riding.
Does the lugs on the explorer track have a dedicated shape for screwing on some ice racing screw like the 136 Hawk track ? Back east, you'll probably find ice spots on most corners... When I added the ice studs on my 503, I knew exactly when I was on ice, 110% traction !!!
Any customer installed it on a CR500AF 877SnowHawk ?
How's the power on a CR450F for example compared to your 800HO Hawk ? I know lots is lost in our clutch/pulley system and a ridiculous amount is probably getting to the track. On decently deep snow like the pictures you posted, did the 800 Hawk just smoked the bikes ? How's the autonomy with an 8 liter tank ? Honestly ? I know 2moto said somewhere that they were smooooking us big time. Can you validate that ? I mean, you know the answer ! (maybe not with the 2moto kit but you know the answer with the explorer kit !) The pictures are there to show it, there was a guy with an 800 Hawk there that must have tried them both ! Honest answer please !
PS : i'm not trying to bash on the kit here, my thing is mountain back country & powder riding and I think a Hawk will end up being a better machine for me than any MX with the kit... unless someone proves it to me ! I'm a super open minded guy ! If someone with an explorer kit just smokes me big time in 30" of bottomless pow at 5000' without cold feets & without running out of gas throughout the whole day, I'll sell my hawk and get one right there ! If I'd be in Quebec, I may think of buying one... but the deep snow is just too nice here in BC... !
Thanks !
Thierry