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I wish you would instead of choosing to communicate like teenage girl on facebook.
It really is a nice library. I don't know what's not to like.
Either way man, thanks for getting some info from the mfg... knowing where they stand for real shows us that they don't have a leg to stand on if they claim that a customer is using an oil that's not up to par.
Either way... those that want to run xps and can get it for a decent price... go for it, those that want to use something else for whatever reason... go for that too. I would have said that anyone using junk oil better watch their butt, but the comments by brp seem to make that hard to see how they would be able to claim an issue is oil related. I'd assume a non synthetic could be an issue, as that's straightforward... but that aside I don't see it.
Guys in Canuckistan... do you guys have any laws that are similar to our Magnussen (sp?) Moss act up there? Could that be part of the deal... that up there they CAN enforce that there but not here?
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Legal clarification on the US side
I asked a lawyer friend who has had the opportunity to study the Magnusson Moss act to simplify and clarify what it means to us. This is what he said:
"The act states, use the product specified by the manufacturer or an equivalent or you could void your warranty.
Burden to determine equivalent is on the consumer, not the manufacture.
If it is determined that they did not use an equivalent, they are in breach of warranty."
Just some additional facts to help frame this discussion.
I asked a lawyer friend who has had the opportunity to study the Magnusson Moss act to simplify and clarify what it means to us. This is what he said:
"The act states, use the product specified by the manufacturer or an equivalent or you could void your warranty.
Burden to determine equivalent is on the consumer, not the manufacture.
If it is determined that they did not use an equivalent, they are in breach of warranty."
Just some additional facts to help frame this discussion.
SO, if the MFG gives no rating or standard to their own product, what is it that someone would have to prove??
Either way... still not one single person has said they've had a warranty issue because of oil, which makes this kind of a moot point.
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More clarification on Moss – Magnusson
Based on case studies the following is how this would play out:
If their is no standard it is up to consumer to get OEM oil and their aftermarket oil analyzed and from that you can make a determination if they are the same.
The reason there is no standard for Recreation engines is that the individual OEM's have applied the latest two-stroke technology quite differently, creating different appetites and require different oils.
Based on case studies the following is how this would play out:
If their is no standard it is up to consumer to get OEM oil and their aftermarket oil analyzed and from that you can make a determination if they are the same.
The reason there is no standard for Recreation engines is that the individual OEM's have applied the latest two-stroke technology quite differently, creating different appetites and require different oils.
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Lucas
Anyone using lucas snowmobile oil.
Anyone using lucas snowmobile oil.
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Bring up an old thread. What's everyone using in the ETEC these days? My buddy and I still running the full synthetic XPS, but after reading about dirty Rave valve and etc, wondering if I should switch oil
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ran amsoil interceptor for the first time ever last winter and like not having the smell and smoke. i have always just ran the full synthetic in everything since the e-tec came out. wanted something that smoked less and smelled less. i will be running amsoil again this year.
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Switching to amsoil as well --just to get rid of the smoke just a cleaner way to go.
I run Amsoil in everything I have never had an issue
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