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Pump the breaks guys its not what they wanted by any means, calling this ruling a victory is kind of a joke really. Its a north korean approach to what a victory is...really they are full of crap. If you dont have your local FS district supervisors cell number on your speed dial I encourage you to do so now. ALL open/closed areas that are not wilderness will be determined by the districts. I have seen these maps in districts in Utah already. They are not what WWA says they are, calm down and dont buy in to the "victory" they are claiming here. FS will leave open what been open and has use, so go ride, dont be douches like WWA and express your concerns civily to the right people.
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I just took the time to read the actual document and it really isn't as bad as for us as WWA makes it out to be. Seems that a lot of what they were pushing for is outside the scope of the ruling. Over snow vehicles were kept separated from other motorized plans, and the local districts will get to decide what is open for OSV use and what isn't. Now hopefully everyone's local district manager is pro-snowmobile! WWA won't be able to provide comment on areas deemed open for OSVs, but we won't be able to comment on areas deemed closed either.
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WWA won't be able to provide comment on areas deemed open for OSVs, but we won't be able to comment on areas deemed closed either.
Where do you see that?

Here's a more readable version if anyone's interested.

https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...ement-rule#h-8
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The problem is that a lot of the decision making will be out of the hands of the local USFS districts, even if the local leadership is supportive of OSV use.

Now the NEPA process at each forest will be open to public comment and threats of lawsuits from Winter Wildlands, the Sierra Club, Center for Biological Diversity, etc etc. These "non-profits" have found it quite profitable to sue the gov't, and get paid by the gov't to do so.

In addition, they solicit generous donations from urban areas where the concept of "preservation" is attractive in a warm and fuzzy way to the city dwellers who have no reason to support "conservation" or balanced use instead. (Check the CBD website to see how many lawyers they employ: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/about/staff/)

Once faced with the threat of a lawsuit, the easiest thing for a District Ranger to do is simply lay down and show his/her belly, because the USFS can't afford lawsuits across all of the mountain states; one for a wolf in Idaho, another for a wolverine in NorCal, another for a sage grouse in Nevada...
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Where do you see that?

Here's a more readable version if anyone's interested.

https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...ement-rule#h-8
I should re-word that to be "direct legal challenge" instead of "comment". After the use areas are defined by the local responsible authorities (with public input) and published on an OSV map, the areas are set. Now the ruling says the Forest Service maintains the right to change use designations on its lands as it sees fit. However, it is not required to revisit its decisions once they are made. If the Forest Service deems a change is necessary, public notice is all that is required. OSV route and area designations that have already been made under past rules and laws that are chosen to be included in the new maps are not required to be re-visited. (See page 10 of the published record document) Also, no Environmental Impact Studies are necessary to establish the OSV use areas. (Last page of the record document). I think WWA would have really liked to have all the existing plans re-visited and provide comments again, as well as challenge for an EIS on each approved area.

People can indeed comment on the plans, but the FS has no obligation to make changes unless they see fit (or get fed up enough with whoever is doing the complaining to appease them). So get in good with your ranger districts!
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