2018 ctec-2 800 performance

Twistgrip · Oct 23, 2018

First off great forum, I was just wondering how these motors compare to the other brand 800's? All I see on the internet with HP numbers about the other motors and how they say AC motor HP is not what they advertise. I have a 2019 AC 800 sitting in the garage waiting to ride coming off a 2017 AC.
Both High Country's. My guess is there is only a handful of you guys that are able to ride a 2019 right now. Any difference? I guess my question is how are these motors in the real world and not what I read about dyno pulls?
Thanks

bgraff1 · Oct 23, 2018

much better than the zuke, and that's saying a lot. the bottom end is much better, no more bottom end bog. haven't heard anybody say they wished they kept the zuke

summ8rmk · Oct 23, 2018

C-tec2, no Ragratz.....

Wheel House Motorsports · Oct 23, 2018

Lowest rating on the Dyno's.

On the hill the Cat is an animal. The power transmission is what does it. Killer track, clutching and power delivery makes it feel a lot more powerful then the dyno says. The roll out/takeoff feels dang near electric. Massive improvement over the older stuff.

M8onEdge · Oct 26, 2018

My '18 MC kills my '17 MC in uphill drag comparison...frankly, I was shocked by the difference. Definitely a significant improvement. Hope we get the longevity of the Suzuki with this new motor. That means a lot and kept me with Cat in spite of other weaknesses. I didn't see nearly the difference between the 850 Poo and 800 Poo when we ran them side by side. Guess we'll see soon enough.

madmax · Oct 26, 2018

M8onEdge said:
My '18 MC kills my '17 MC in uphill drag comparison...frankly, I was shocked by the difference. Definitely a significant improvement. Hope we get the longevity of the Suzuki with this new motor. That means a lot and kept me with Cat in spite of other weaknesses. I didn't see nearly the difference between the 850 Poo and 800 Poo when we ran them side by side. Guess we'll see soon enough.

Not to meantion the 17’ mt Cat was way better than the 16’ as well. Cat has made huge improvements over the last 3 years.

Twistgrip · Oct 26, 2018

Thanks for the replies guys. I like hearing your real world experiences. A lot of people get hung up on dyno numbers, I guess me included when it's sitting in the garage. I have a buddy that's getting the Polaris 850 ands he's already talking so much smack lol.

jakey-boy · Oct 26, 2018

Twistgrip said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I like hearing your real world experiences. A lot of people get hung up on dyno numbers, I guess me included when it's sitting in the garage. I have a buddy that's getting the Polaris 850 ands he's already talking so much smack lol.

Let him talk then when you stomp him on the hill ask him where his dyno sheet is.

sno*jet · Oct 26, 2018

when I rode the ER18 (grey) I thought to myself this even has a little more top end than my 17MC. when I ride the production 18s I feel its about the same top end wise as my zuke (dare I say less?:face-icon-small-sho). I have read on the interwebs that the 19s are back up to the 18ER level but either way you will be happy with the power. they are animals. Polaris claimed their 800 was highest hp in class too, meh whatever :face-icon-small-coo

summ8rmk · Oct 26, 2018

Deep snow days my 18 uses a touch more fuel than my 14 with a Jaws pipe.
I have averaged 4.7mpg a few times on my 18, never dropped below 5mpg on my 14.

Both sleds 3in claw. 14 is 153 18 is 162.
The 14 feels like it has more power as it should, close to 170hp. the highmark on the hill goes to the 18 for sure. that could just be the track length?

The new Ctec is so crisp and smooth running everywhere, all my zukes(since 2008) load up bad going down hill. When on the throttle i don't see a difference.

Teth-Air · Oct 26, 2018

summ8rmk said:
Deep snow days my 18 uses a touch more fuel than my 14 with a Jaws pipe.
I have averaged 4.7mpg a few times on my 18, never dropped below 5mpg on my 14.

Both sleds 3in claw. 14 is 153 18 is 162.
The 14 feels like it has more power as it should, close to 170hp. the highmark on the hill goes to the 18 for sure. that could just be the track length?

The new Ctec is so crisp and smooth running everywhere, all my zukes(since 2008) load up bad going down hill. When on the throttle i don't see a difference.

FYI on the 2015 Polaris 800 v.s. the 2016 Polaris 800HO it is a similar experience. Top end feels good on both but the newer motors just run better down low. It just shows that these manufacturers are making better products now, I bet with less emissions too. I am surprised your 18 isn't better on fuel though.

madmax · Oct 27, 2018

Twistgrip said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I like hearing your real world experiences. A lot of people get hung up on dyno numbers, I guess me included when it's sitting in the garage. I have a buddy that's getting the Polaris 850 ands he's already talking so much smack lol.

Seeing that he can't even pick up and ride his 850 right now because polaris has them all frozen at the dealers cuz there is an update already for the fuel system. He may never get a sled to compare with you. When he does it'll probably be time for another update because there is something else not working or broken. Tried to talk to one of the polaris guys at the utah snow show yesterday about when we could pick up our sleds and use them and he refused to talk about it and told me to call customer service. Nice.

1Mike900 · Oct 27, 2018

What do they have to do? richen them up to make them last? 850 Poo I would have known they will not run as advertised when testing, de-tuned 10% to get them to last? Mike

kiliki · Oct 27, 2018

And why is this Polaris BS in the ctek performance

Stack · Oct 28, 2018

It would be nice to see the 19’s at 160-162 hp, seems entirely feasible from this 800 CTEC motor. I’m happy with my 18 Early Release performance for sure. Just figured from a marketing standpoint on the 19’s if you get the 800 to that 160+ mark that’s pretty darn solid and these sleds have now proven to be very durable.

WyoBoy1000 · Oct 30, 2018

Not sure about a high country since the 3" powerclaw is a major factor. But in the mountains we have even walked on pump gas axys sleds quite often when it counts, same with doo but not as often. Stock for stock the doo and poo guys just avoid us. May not show the power but when you get the sled to that last 5% of all out load it doesn't stop and pulls right past the others like they let off. Call it torque or whatever but I heard from several doo and poo die hards saying things along the lines of that thing is unstoppable for a stocker.

Old & slow · Oct 30, 2018

kiliki said:
And why is this Polaris BS in the ctek performance

Some require more attention than others

Cat800 · Oct 30, 2018

Is it possible to flash the 2018 with the 2019 program to make the 2018’s perform like the 2019’s?

bjd68 · Dec 23, 2018

Cat800 said:
Is it possible to flash the 2018 with the 2019 program to make the 2018’s perform like the 2019’s?

Anybody know of this?

562xp · Dec 23, 2018

I would say no because of the new controls on the handle bars.

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