10" Wheel kit

Qreiff · Oct 22, 2018

Here is my plan...... (2018 Mtn Cat 162")
-Order 1/2" offset axle from TKI
-Order 10" rear skid wheels for Alpha One

Assemble on my sled!

Anyone know of something I'm not seeing here as to why this wont work? Diff in bearing size or anything?

Thx!

madmax · Oct 22, 2018

Just curious, why?

DDECKER · Oct 22, 2018

The 10" wheels make the sled a wheelie monster,

fudge313 · Oct 22, 2018

And cool temps will rise on trail. I used billetx 10" wheels on my - 15

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Qreiff · Oct 22, 2018

Primary reason is always rolling resistance (less) in my mind. Don't want a wheelie monster but I can re-adjust limiter and tune that aspect back to manageable. I don't mind lightening up the front end a bit more though.

Cooling issues? Hadn't thought of that. Granted in Colorado I don't have to deal with hard pack all that often but, spring time is spring time. Haven't any cooling issue at all with this sled ....including last year in low snow conditions. Hmmmm...:juggle:

F7arcticcat · Oct 22, 2018

Dont you need the 1 inch offset? I already did this to my, 14 with a 17 mtn cat skid, everything bolts right up!

madmax · Oct 22, 2018

Not sure how bigger wheels will keep temps down. Rolling resistance was a big thing 10-15 years ago before track technology changed and tracks are thinner, less plys and much more flexable than they used to be. But every little bit counts. Anyway big billet wheels look cool.

bgraff1 · Oct 23, 2018

IMO the biggest reason to do this is to get rid of that ****ty factory tri hub. if your ordering the axle through TKI id just get wheels through him also, wouldn't bother with factory plastic wheels. has two sleds in our group take out the tri hubs in the same day last season

sno*jet · Oct 23, 2018

I like the tri hub, churns the snow out.

summ8rmk · Oct 23, 2018

Tighten the bolts and it should be real strong.
Over 4,000 miles .

Scott · Oct 23, 2018

Just curious, why do 10" wheels make it a wheelie monster?

DDECKER · Oct 23, 2018

move your pivoting point forward, one reason why the 165 Alpha feels like a 153 sled.

fudge313 · Oct 24, 2018

Qreiff said:
Primary reason is always rolling resistance (less) in my mind. Don't want a wheelie monster but I can re-adjust limiter and tune that aspect back to manageable. I don't mind lightening up the front end a bit more though.

Cooling issues? Hadn't thought of that. Granted in Colorado I don't have to deal with hard pack all that often but, spring time is spring time. Haven't any cooling issue at all with this sled ....including last year in low snow conditions. Hmmmm...:juggle:

There is no realy cooling issues with 10" wheels but they will rise a bit.
And bigger wheels are good when you reverse, they dont dive into snow so much.

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madmax · Oct 24, 2018

fudge313 said:
There is no realy cooling issues with 10" wheels but they will rise a bit.
And bigger wheels are good when you reverse, they dont dive into snow so much.

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I hadn’t thought about the reverse bonus. I have heard the alpha drives in reverse in powder really well.

F7arcticcat · Oct 24, 2018

DDECKER said:
move your pivoting point forward, one reason why the 165 Alpha feels like a 153 sled.

If my sled magically handles like a 153 now I will be a happy camper!

Scott · Oct 24, 2018

I don't buy the wheelie claim.
You are only moving the axle forwarda little bit. Less than an inch.

Wheelies are controlled by limiter straps and suspension set-up.

I called all over the country in 2002 and NOBODY made 10" rear idlers. Nobody.
I had to talk Superbeast and Pengilly into making them for me as a one-off set.
In fact, as far as I know, I was the first one to run 10" wheels. Hardly anyone else ran them.
I ran them on my old 156 for 5 years.

I haven't heard of anybody running them for like 10 years.
Now, in the last two or three years, I've just started hearing about people starting to offer them again. I actually saw someone who said they were offering the revolutionary 10" idler wheels. HAHA....OK.

I ran then for 5 seasons and in that time I jumped up to an 1155cc twin on 50hp on nitrous. THAT made it wheelie. The 10" wheels did not.
Never discovered that I could wheelie any easier...not that I wanted to anyway. It's all in the set-up.

sno*jet · Oct 24, 2018

easier to ride (balance) a wheelie the bigger the back wheels get I would think. maybe that makes you the wheelie monster.
I don't get how they could make temps rise?
I think 10" is a waste unless you have the 3.5 pitch track, or you trying to suck up track length for some reason.
the single-rail alpha might need them to help keep track in line also.

j hoalst · Oct 24, 2018

On an 18 with the stock 8" wheels to do it right you would do the 1" offset axle with the 10" wheels

Qreiff · Oct 25, 2018

j hoalst said:
On an 18 with the stock 8" wheels to do it right you would do the 1" offset axle with the 10" wheels

Correct. I initially thought the 18 was 9" rear wheel but if its 8" I will need a 1" off-set

fudge313 · Nov 2, 2018

From billetx. Difference to - 15 rear wheels

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