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Choice? 2004 Escape or 2005 RMK

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Back into sledding and new to deep pow.

Found these two:
- both are 800s, 159 tracks

2004 Vert Escape
- 3700 miles (top and bottom rebuilt last season)
- stock except goldfinger

2005 RMK
- 1000 miles, new crate motor

2004 is $200 less
 
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sledheader

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Back into sledding and new to deep pow.

Found these two:
- both are 800s, 159 tracks

2004 Vert Escape
- 3700 miles (top and bottom rebuilt last season)
- stock except goldfinger

2005 RMK
- 1000 miles, new crate motor

2004 is $200 less

Who rebuilt the 2004? The escape IIRC was a snowcheck model and included upgraded shocks...that's really the only difference.

TO me that's a no brainer...I would go with the 2005 all day just because of the miles, given neither looks like it's been too terribly abused.
 

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In 05 the 'regular' 800 had all the goodies on it that the snowcheck escape models had in 2004.

I agree, no brainer on the 2005, the chassis has 2700 fewer miles on it, never mind the motor.

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T
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Hmm, initial pics seem to match what I've read - different seat and steering post (or at least cover).

'04 does have the RYdeFX shocks.

If $$ is an issue, would the $2-500 savings to add other features be worth the cost in extra miles?

Is the weight difference going to be that much of a factor to a 6'4" 260# flatlander? Maybe the steering post?
 

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Is it the same edge chassis for both? If not and if you go with the 2005 make sure you're happy with the rider forward style chassis of the IQ/IQR. It is a totally different feel especially if you're a flatlander. If it is the same chassis I would go with the 2005 with fewer miles. I love the Edge and have 2 04 escapes. Love everything about them. I also have a 2010 RMK in the IQ and can't stand it.
 
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OK. New development..

Found a 2004 700 Escape with only 750 miles on it for about the same price. Waiting for a reply on the track length. Don't think I should go any lower than 151.

All sleds are edge chassis RMKs.
 

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Which flatlands are you referring too? I have an 03 vert. edge with a pile of goodies and stretched to a 162, only 1400 miles. I am second owner, original owner only put on 600 miles in 10 years.
 

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go for the 700 if its just as clean. all good sleds just get the one thats in best shape. check the paddle lengths, maybe the 05 is 1/8" taller? it will make a difference.
2.125" 159 will stomp on a 2x151 in the hills. easy upgrade from tracks usa if that 700 looks good otherwise.
 

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OK. New development..

Found a 2004 700 Escape with only 750 miles on it for about the same price. Waiting for a reply on the track length. Don't think I should go any lower than 151.

All sleds are edge chassis RMKs.

Go with this one. 700's are great motors, put out nearly the same power as an 800 and don't have the crank issues.
 

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What sleadheader said. I would go with the 700, they did not have the crank issues due to not enough crush on the pto bearings. This would cause it to beat the cases out resulting in crank problems. If you are a flatlander that 700 will rip on the trail if geared and clutched correctly. It will outrun an 800 that is not setup quite right and will last 3 times as long. The 700 will surprise most people, they ran great.
 
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Yeah, no longer a flatlander(WI). Moved to SW Colorado couple years ago and looking for a mountain sled.

I was thinking the same thing about the 700 as well. Even at prolly #275 with gear on, i'm thinking that would do me just fine. Might not keep up with my buddies out here (but that's more just their experience than anything).
 

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You will need all the ponies that you can muster, for high altitude Colorado sledding. Everything is above 7000 ft ASL. Check the tunnels beneath the foot wells for buckling from collision damage. Check the tunnels behind the rear plastic molding with the reflector, because they tend to crack there as well. A cracked tunnel requires special braces to stabilize it. Avoid cracked tunnels. People who barely road their sleds, also probably did not know how to maintain them. Check for grease in the bearing beneath the secondary clutch. No grease means they were an amateur and the bearing could already be screwed up. You have to have a lot of experience to be able to replace that one. Most other bearings need replacing by 3000 miles. Check the left front engine crankcase to frame bolt. That bolt tends to blow every 500 to 1000 miles on the 800's. A torn one means the crankcase has been twisting and causing excessive wear on the crankshaft bearings. Avoid buying used sleds with over 1500 miles, unless you know your stuff about maintenance.
 
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Thanks for the info Agent "K"!

For my size and novice "powder" riding ability, do you think the 800 would be better than the 7?

Had sleds and done my share of rebuilding so maint is not an issue. But I'm leaning to steer clear of the 800's.
 

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Go with the 700. Then put an slp single pipe, slp high flow intake and cheater head on it and have more hp than an 800 and still be more reliable than the 800.
 

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Perc can be added real easy, put it on my 03. My 04 proxr only needed the button added so I assume 04 rmks had it.

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reverse

True the kits are easy to put in for PERC, but they are pretty much not available anywhere.... I searched quite a bit and can't find one. I would not buy any sled without reverse.
 

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Reverse would be a must for me.
The others are right that the 700 rocked and would be the best engine as far as reliability goes, but reverse would be the deal maker for me in those year sleds.:face-icon-small-hap
 
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