My running-board foot-loop injury: Who else has had their foot stuck in the footwell?

Sage Crusher · Oct 16, 2016

WolfieSKS said:
TTT. This thread has turned into just as much of an ortho ward thread. Really sorry you got hurt, I almost did twice last winter, second time I literally had to have my buddy lift me back up onto my sled before I could get my foot unstuck. :face-icon-small-con: :rofl: Bad design imo, and I still like tucking my feet in there when on trail, so the plate that limits that is out. I call B+M on Friday, and he said he hasn't gotten around to designing or making one yet. A little disappointed, with all the AXYS's that have been getting sold, I'm hoping someone comes out with one like now.

It's very obvious it's not going to happen for us this pre season .... been way to long asking .. there are options out there but. It Is not what some of us were hoping for..
careful this years guys -I for one do NOT want it to happen again:face-icon-small-con

WolfieSKS · Oct 16, 2016

Sage Crusher said:
It's very obvious it's not going to happen for us this pre season .... been way to long asking .. there are options out there but. It Is not what some of us were hoping for..
careful this years guys -I for one do NOT want it to happen again:face-icon-small-con

Im thinking about just bringing my sled to a fab shop who can weld aluminum. Cut and re mount an inch higher would make all the difference. I honestly don't wanna do any off trailing with this thing until I get that flaw fixed.

LoudHandle · Oct 16, 2016

WolfieSKS said:
Im thinking about just bringing my sled to a fab shop who can weld aluminum. Cut and re mount an inch higher would make all the difference. I honestly don't wanna do any off trailing with this thing until I get that flaw fixed.

The key being a welder who is well versed in TIG welding aluminum. There are a lot of hacks out there that claim they can weld it, but the reality is few really do weld enough of it to be worthy of your trust and $. Even the stock Polaris welds are sub-par IMO though.

Sheetmetalfab · Oct 17, 2016

After cutting mine and moving them up, if i were to start over I would cut a 16" long 2x2 piece of wood to slip up through the running board and notch the top so it grabs the hoop right at the 90 degree bend.

Then jump up and down on that running board til the hoop is bent up 1/2" at the 90 degree turn.
The tubing will bend with a concentrated force at that point.

Problem solved.

akpowderhound · Oct 17, 2016

Sheetmetalfab said:
After cutting mine and moving them up, if i were to start over I would cut a 16" long 2x2 piece of wood to slip up through the running board and notch the top so it grabs the hoop right at the 90 degree bend.

Then jump up and down on that running board til the hoop is bent up 1/2" at the 90 degree turn.
The tubing will bend with a concentrated force at that point.

Problem solved.

Worth trying for sure.
Great thinking

Yaeger34 · Oct 17, 2016

Ha is that a real possibility? Any issues with bending it that way. May have to try this.....

idahosledder · Oct 17, 2016

Sheetmetalfab said:
After cutting mine and moving them up, if i were to start over I would cut a 16" long 2x2 piece of wood to slip up through the running board and notch the top so it grabs the hoop right at the 90 degree bend.

Then jump up and down on that running board til the hoop is bent up 1/2" at the 90 degree turn.
The tubing will bend with a concentrated force at that point.

Problem solved.

So do you think a quick shock to bend this would be better than a slow force like a portapower/frame rack set up?

I will have to pick some engineer brains tomorrow at work, but I am guessing the tubing should bend fine without any stress cracks either way.

Definitely worth looking into.
Hopefully I will have the sleds in the shop soon.
Hopefully soon.
Sigh.

WolfieSKS · Oct 17, 2016

Sheetmetalfab said:
After cutting mine and moving them up, if i were to start over I would cut a 16" long 2x2 piece of wood to slip up through the running board and notch the top so it grabs the hoop right at the 90 degree bend.

Then jump up and down on that running board til the hoop is bent up 1/2" at the 90 degree turn.
The tubing will bend with a concentrated force at that point.

Problem solved.

Aggressive. :face-icon-small-hap Can you heat the aluminum and perhaps bend it up with some well placed leverage? 1 inch would do the trick imo.

Snowmow · Oct 17, 2016

WolfieSKS said:
Aggressive. :face-icon-small-hap Can you heat the aluminum and perhaps bend it up with some well placed leverage? 1 inch would do the trick imo.

I wouldn't heat it for obvious reasons.

Sheetmetalfab · Oct 17, 2016

WolfieSKS said:
Aggressive. :face-icon-small-hap Can you heat the aluminum and perhaps bend it up with some well placed leverage? 1 inch would do the trick imo.

Why heat it?
Its already butter soft?

Seriously it bends easily.

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Sheetmetalfab · Oct 17, 2016

idahosledder said:
So do you think a quick shock to bend this would be better than a slow force like a portapower/frame rack set up?

I will have to pick some engineer brains tomorrow at work, but I am guessing the tubing should bend fine without any stress cracks either way.

Definitely worth looking into.

Hopefully I will have the sleds in the shop soon.

Hopefully soon.

Sigh.

Could use a cheap floor jack.....
Or port o power or whatever.

Or lay 2x4's on the running board in a stack til its high enough to use one as a lever......

Its a very simple process with uncle lever involved.

Just leave the stepson hammertime jack out of it........

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LoudHandle · Oct 17, 2016

Since most all of the formed aluminum Polaris uses in the chassis is 5052. Which is alloyed specifically to make forming it easy. Bending it is no problem, it doesn't care whether it's done fast or slow. No heat is ever needed with 5052. If you get too aggressive with it it will kink, so spread the load out over an inch or so of the tubes surface and massage it up to where you like it.

If you want to get fancy you can drill a hole the OD of the tube in a 2x and then cut it thru the centerline of the drilled hole. Put the saddle you just made where you want to apply the force to make your bend. That way you will not deform or flatten the tube where you are applying the bend force.

FWIW

B&M Fabrications · Nov 20, 2016

Sage Crusher said:
It's very obvious it's not going to happen for us this pre season .... been way to long asking .. there are options out there but. It Is not what some of us were hoping for..
careful this years guys -I for one do NOT want it to happen again:face-icon-small-con

The problem we have is that we cannot keep up with production of current items. Every year we learn how to produce more and more and we still can't keep up. Ironically, Polaris with out a doubt makes the best factory board by far and then trapped it with a tight foot hoop. We still build more boards for the axys than anything else right now, probably due to it's raised toe hoop and a more rigid platform. A foot hoop mod is on the list for sure but we haven't even been able to get an axys in the shop since before September because we are too busy. I will do my best to get an option on the table asap. All of us work long hours and mostly 7 days a week right now trying to get ahead..ha

Bryan

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Sage Crusher · Nov 20, 2016

B&M Fabrications said:
The problem we have is that we cannot keep up with production of current items. Every year we learn how to produce more and more and we still can't keep up. Ironically, Polaris with out a doubt makes the best factory board by far and then trapped it with a tight foot hoop. We still build more boards for the axys than anything else right now, probably due to it's raised toe hoop and a more rigid platform. A foot hoop mod is on the list for sure but we haven't even been able to get an axys in the shop since before September because we are too busy. I will do my best to get an option on the table asap. All of us work long hours and mostly 7 days a week right now trying to get ahead..ha

Bryan,
I understand, and am also burning the candle at both ends at my shop-catching up with the winter demand.
I already ordered a set of your boards for the Axys
( Semi Gloss wanted the LTD Boards) to keep from injury this season-
I also know your boards sheds more snow than the factory boards- that which completely suck, allowing snow to accumulate on the foremost rear, and creep forward through out the day....

I have many sales for your toe foot hoop fix for the Axys, when you get caught up- and start kicken' them out. Yeah it will put me further behind again installing them- but that's a good thing $$ .

Thank you and your Team for turning out such outstanding products...eace:

S/C

bajah2x · Nov 21, 2016

I use a grinder and smooth up first 3 rows of board lugs . Makes a huge diff in how easy foot comes out. Done it to 3 pros and to my new axys.

Jona$ · Nov 21, 2016

X2 on following this thread.

idahosledder · Nov 21, 2016

bajah2x said:
I use a grinder and smooth up first 3 rows of board lugs . Makes a huge diff in how easy foot comes out. Done it to 3 pros and to my new axys.

This has crossed my mind many times.
Seems counter intuitive to defeat the purpose of the boards, but I think with your foot locked in the hoop you really dont need the traction as much anyway.

Pickin’ Boogers · Dec 3, 2016

St0rm77 said:
I've had no issues with mine, but that is because after a buddy demolished his ankle, i just whacked them off.

http://www.snowest.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=270318&d=1461505118

Why isn't this a more common solution? Do they really add much to the structure? Or is it just hard to get used to riding without them?

06redrevx · Jan 23, 2017

Well, my season ended early Saturday when my right foot got caught in the toe loop, fracturing the fifth metatarsal. I try to ride back from the loops but it can't always be avoided. I see the orthodo Thursday and I. Hoping no surgery. This is really a bad and dangerous design!

TRS · Jan 23, 2017

Heal my friend. Hope all ends well.
I'm in the last phase of my recovery. Almost complete.

My running-board foot-loop injury: Who else has had their foot stuck in the footwell?

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