Another Baofeng Thread: BF-F8HP vs UV-82HP?

Goinboardin · Dec 12, 2017

Both are spec'd to cover the same frequencies and now have the same output ratings (8W VHF/7W UHF). https://baofengtech.com/comparechart

The BF-F8HP has a bigger 2100mAh battery versus the UV-82HP with 1800mAh battery. I'd be using a BTech mic, and can add an antenna if needed. My buddies use BCA and they work OK if nearby (they love them, I find the range inadequate), but I'm also on SAR and would like a radio with more range and flexibility.

Any real differences for a sledding radio? Input is appreciated. Thanks.

blastco2 · Dec 19, 2017

I would use the f8hp with the 7 inch baofeng antenna and a counterpoise.
I have tried many different antennas, the 7 inch baofeng always works the best.
The f8hp has the bigger batt and more accessories available.

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blastco2 · Dec 19, 2017

The btech mic is a really good choice.

But 2 of the radios and give one to a BCA user to try....
He will likely switch....

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Goinboardin · Dec 27, 2017

I ordered an F8HP with Btech mic and programming cable, hopefully get some use of it this weekend.

christopher · Dec 27, 2017

Goinboardin said:
Both are spec'd to cover the same frequencies and now have the same output ratings (8W VHF/7W UHF). https://baofengtech.com/comparechart

The BF-F8HP has a bigger 2100mAh battery versus the UV-82HP with 1800mAh battery. I'd be using a BTech mic, and can add an antenna if needed. My buddies use BCA and they work OK if nearby (they love them, I find the range inadequate), but I'm also on SAR and would like a radio with more range and flexibility.

Any real differences for a sledding radio? Input is appreciated. Thanks.

Speaking as an Extra-Class HAM, NOTHING beats POWER and ANTENNA..
Consider this one instead.

http://qrznow.com/baofeng-uv9r-plus-waterproof-dual-band-fm-vhf-uhf/

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2PC...2800mAh-Battery-UHF-VHF-Dual/32839869039.html

Baofeng-Waterproof-Walkie-Talkie-Dual-Band-FM-Transceiver-10KM-VHF-UHF-Baofeng-CB-Radio-Baofeng-UV9R.jpg

Baofeng UV9R Plus

Product parameters
Frequency Range: VHF 136-174,UHF 400-520MHz
Theoretical communication distance: 10 km
Power: 15WATTS
Battery: Polymer lithium battery
Battery: 8000 mAh
Weight: 0.5kg
Size: 12*6*4cm

skegpro · Dec 27, 2017

christopher said:
Speaking as an Extra-Class HAM, NOTHING beats POWER and ANTENNA..
Consider this one instead.

http://qrznow.com/baofeng-uv9r-plus-waterproof-dual-band-fm-vhf-uhf/

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2PC...2800mAh-Battery-UHF-VHF-Dual/32839869039.html

Baofeng UV9R Plus

Product parameters
Frequency Range: VHF 136-174,UHF 400-520MHz
Theoretical communication distance: 10 km
Power: 15WATTS
Battery: Polymer lithium battery
Battery: 8000 mAh
Weight: 0.5kg
Size: 12*6*4cm

Looks awesome.
Did you buy one off this link you attached?
Its only showing 8W........

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christopher · Dec 27, 2017

skegpro said:
Looks awesome.
Did you buy one off this link you attached?
Its only showing 8W........

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There are a PILE of links to ALI...
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/Baof...108.1000016.1.6d286172fe0PKp&isOrigTitle=true

But this is brand new.
Not even listed on the manufacturer's page yet.
Saw it on QRZ but i am not sure it is actually shipping or not yet.

skegpro · Dec 27, 2017

christopher said:
There are a PILE of links to ALI...
https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/Baof...108.1000016.1.6d286172fe0PKp&isOrigTitle=true

But this is brand new.
Not even listed on the manufacturer's page yet.
Saw it on QRZ but i am not sure it is actually shipping or not yet.

Yes great find, I am not seeing the 15W info anywhere except the link you provided.
Must be new.

The link to Alibaba they are showing pictures of the UV-9R nonplus version.
Makes me a little nervous to order.

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christopher · Dec 27, 2017

skegpro said:
Yes great find, I am not seeing the 15W info anywhere except the link you provided.
Must be new.

The link to Alibaba they are showing pictures of the UV-9R nonplus version.
Makes me a little nervous to order.

Agreed.
Even the link posted on QRZ to order it takes you back to the 8W version.

rotaryboots · Dec 27, 2017

I've got a BCA BC-Link and use it as my primary radio, but also keep a
Baofeng UV-82 and an external mic with a long Nagoya Whip antenna in my pack as a backup, spare for extra riders, communicate with Emergency Services, etc.

skegpro · Dec 28, 2017

rotaryboots said:
I've got a BCA BC-Link and use it as my primary radio, but also keep a
Baofeng UV-82 and an external mic with a long Nagoya Whip antenna in my pack as a backup, spare for extra riders, communicate with Emergency Services, etc.

BCA link went in the garbage shortly after I bought it, Boefeng for our whole group.

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Goinboardin · Dec 28, 2017

Too late; the F8HP will be here tomorrow.
But good to know of the more powerful options on the horizon should I feel the need. Thanks.

christopher said:
Speaking as an Extra-Class HAM, NOTHING beats POWER and ANTENNA..
Consider this one instead.

blastco2 · Dec 28, 2017

I'm not sure I'd want 15 watts radiating that close to my head.... Just saying

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skegpro · Dec 29, 2017

blastco2 said:
I'm not sure I'd want 15 watts radiating that close to my head.... Just saying

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Yet most people do the blink at holding a 1-2W cellphone right against their head.

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blastco2 · Dec 29, 2017

Most of us live in a microwave paradise and have no idea.....

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skegpro · Dec 29, 2017

christopher said:
Agreed.
Even the link posted on QRZ to order it takes you back to the 8W version.

QRZ updated the link.

https://m.pt.aliexpress.com/s/item/..._id=eec81a69597b4cf49cadd168a0180ecc#autostay

15W

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christopher · Dec 29, 2017

skegpro said:
QRZ updated the link.

https://m.pt.aliexpress.com/s/item/..._id=eec81a69597b4cf49cadd168a0180ecc#autostay

15W

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Showing delivery of 20-40 days Time.

skegpro · Dec 29, 2017

christopher said:
Showing delivery of 20-40 days Time.

Yeah not getting the warm fuzzy

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Goinboardin · Feb 5, 2018

I've used the radio quite a bit now. Quick thoughts:
1. Btech mic needs a filter. In good snow, my mic packed with powder and no one could hear me until I blew it out. Added an old piece of intake prefilter and the issue is fixed. Non-issue in mediocre snow, but a 3' day made short work of the functionality.
2. The range is good. I added the counterpoise as suggested to me above and am using the 7" antenna that came with it. I hear other groups that those in my group with BCA's do not. Those same other groups can hear me, and I couldn't hear their sleds whatsoever. Haven't tested for a mileage yet, but no problems so I guess the number itself doesn't really matter.
3. Save the attached PDF to your phone, print it out, memorize it, whatever (if you ride with BCA radio users). Makes dialing in your radio easy.
4. Battery life has been good. Two rides without charge no problem. Haven't tried going longer, but it would likely be fine. Lowest battery seen was down 1 bar, after a long riding day, and that included 3 hours of FM tunes in a safety shelter.
5. I'd buy again. But wouldn't recommend this to someone that wants to charge the battery and go. It took a little time to figure out, but nothing difficult. I bought the programming cable & used Chirp with good success; programmed in Weather channels, local sheriff, local fire. I disabled transmit on those channels..listen only.

Goinboardin · Aug 2, 2018

Eight month update: radio died in late June. Turned on, all looked fine, 10 minutes later went to do a communication check and there was nothing; totally dead. Replaced under warranty, no questions asked (bought from Baofeng Tech, US based distributor). I would have liked to know what failed, but didn't want to crack it open to see & lose my warranty coverage. 5 months of 1-2 times a week use, then once or twice a month for two months, and dead. Not too great. I realize issues happen and glad it was covered but that is rather poor reliability.

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