Solutions for MtnHorse lust for more power...

FurryCURT · Jan 9, 2011

As I ponder a snow-bike, I consider the following things:

500 cc bike needs more power
V-twins make more torque which seems to be more important than raw power ( ie high revving Bullet bikes )
A dedicated snowbike wouldn't be that bad ( rather than swapping out the kit spring and fall )
The rear suspention of the bike isn't a factor on the Timbersled kit ( no MX bike necessary )
Forks and front travel could be changed as well as the bars

With that in mind, I thought about a buddies Suzuki TL1000R and the massive torque it makes... TOO heavy and 1000cc is not very practical...

Enter Suzuki's SV650 sport bike... a 40 % increase in power over a YZ450F or a CR450F, More torque, a powerband fatter than Oprah, a 12,000 RPM redline and fuel injection ( no jetting required )! Although heavier, it still represents a bigger gain in HP and torque than it does in weight.

So out I went to the workshop and cobbed one together... Hope you like it...

FrozenMOTO · Jan 9, 2011

FurryCURT said:
As I ponder a snow-bike, I consider the following things:

500 cc bike needs more power
V-twins make more torque which seems to be more important than raw power ( ie high revving Bullet bikes )
A dedicated snowbike wouldn't be that bad ( rather than swapping out the kit spring and fall )
The rear suspention of the bike isn't a factor on the Timbersled kit ( no MX bike necessary )
Forks and front travel could be changed as well as the bars

With that in mind, I thought about a buddies Suzuki TL1000R and the massive torque it makes... TOO heavy and 1000cc is not very practical...

Enter Suzuki's SV650 sport bike... a 40 % increase in power over a YZ450F or a CR450F, More torque, a powerband fatter than Oprah, a 12,000 RPM redline and fuel injection ( no jetting required )! Although heavier, it still represents a bigger gain in HP and torque than it does in weight.

So out I went to the workshop and cobbed one together... Hope you like it...

I think timbersled has a kit out for a KTM SMR 690. Same idea although I dont know the output of the bike I would love to get one.

leeee · Feb 5, 2011

you just need this

http://montana.craigslist.org/mcy/2149479362.html

put a timbersled kit on this bad boy!

Timbersled · Feb 7, 2011

Boondocker Nitrous on the carburetored bikes works sweet. I ran a 15 HP shot on a 09 YZ 450. Ran 50 pounds of nos through that bike and it never had a problem with anything. I would recommend that to satisfy your need for more power. It’s something that is possible for most people.

Allen

TimG · Feb 7, 2011

How about nitrous on the EFI MX bikes? Anyone doing it?

boondawgee · Feb 22, 2011

Get an Aprilia

skidoomt · Feb 22, 2011

boondawgee said:
Get an Aprilia

Do you think that the vtwin would be better in the snow than single cycinder bikes?

boondawgee · Feb 22, 2011

wonder twin

It's definitely a fast *** bike. There's always gearing changes... There's also the throttle cam as well. Nice thing about the Aprilia is the fuel injection. The questionable weight gain w/ the v twin isn't really a problem either. I have a sxv 550 that weighs 255 lbs w/ it's wheels on.:face-icon-small-sho Try riding one and then your mind will wander for awhile. There really unbelievable. There's 450's as well in the rxv and sxv models.

relentless rider · Feb 25, 2011

what about the ktm 505 ??would this be a good bike for the TS kit??

retired motoman · Feb 25, 2011

KTM 505

relentless rider said:
what about the ktm 505 ??would this be a good bike for the TS kit??

I would believe the KTM 505 would kick ***. Much more power than a 450/530 and revs faster. I thought of getting one for my first snowbike (2Moto). The deal breaker was the lack of a kick starter for me.
They dont have any extra charging, so no hot grips.

relentless rider · Feb 27, 2011

retired motoman said:
I would believe the KTM 505 would kick ***. Much more power than a 450/530 and revs faster. I thought of getting one for my first snowbike (2Moto). The deal breaker was the lack of a kick starter for me.
They dont have any extra charging, so no hot grips.

Cool i just got a ktm 505 to put the MH kit on,just need the kit now lol.It pulls alot harder than my old crf450r.I do wish it was kick start too! but the E start is nice.If anyone wants to sell there MH kit for a ktm let me know ill be all over it.I hope i dont regret selling my t apex to go for this.:face-icon-small-con

retired motoman · Feb 27, 2011

Install a larger battery

relentless rider said:
Cool i just got a ktm 505 to put the MH kit on,just need the kit now lol.It pulls alot harder than my old crf450r.I do wish it was kick start too! but the E start is nice.If anyone wants to sell there MH kit for a ktm let me know ill be all over it.I hope i dont regret selling my t apex to go for this.:face-icon-small-con

There is 10 of us that ride MH's together here in N Idaho. Most of us started on 2Moto's and during the learning curve we would run our batttery's flat until we all installed larger battery's.

relentless rider · Feb 27, 2011

retired motoman said:
There is 10 of us that ride MH's together here in N Idaho. Most of us started on 2Moto's and during the learning curve we would run our batttery's flat until we all installed larger battery's.

I just found this out today,when i got the bike the battery was shot,so got a new wps battery,charged it over night put in bike and started fine.So this afternoon i took the bike to the woods to ride around in about a foot of snow and it would not start,jumped it with the truck and off i went ripping around,killed it trying to jump over a log and dead i set. couldnt push start,so had to push it to the truck.So ya wish it had a kick starter lol.What battery should i get,or did i not charge it right?

retired motoman · Feb 27, 2011

A lot of options.

relentless rider said:
couldnt push start,so had to push it to the truck.So ya wish it had a kick starter lol.What battery should i get,or did i not charge it right?

I use a Yusa 7s but there are much higher amp dry cell battries avaibable that take up as little space.
KTM talk would be a good place to search for the best one avaibable.

J&L Snowhawk · Feb 28, 2011

check the charging system. I have not had much bad luck with the wps batteries but the yuasa are better most of the time.

relentless rider said:
I just found this out today,when i got the bike the battery was shot,so got a new wps battery,charged it over night put in bike and started fine.So this afternoon i took the bike to the woods to ride around in about a foot of snow and it would not start,jumped it with the truck and off i went ripping around,killed it trying to jump over a log and dead i set. couldnt push start,so had to push it to the truck.So ya wish it had a kick starter lol.What battery should i get,or did i not charge it right?

relentless rider · Feb 28, 2011

Ive been working on a small turbo kit on my old xr400r,im using a RHB31 turbo.if it works good i will start working with the ktm505.I thank this will be the next big thing for making the best out of the snow kits,im looking to run about 5 lbs of boost with the 400 with 10/1 comp with av fuel.The turbo is going to be mounted in the air box,will not be IC but maybe in time after i see if it works lol

JD86 · Mar 7, 2011

Aprilia snow bike

I actually bought that aprilia and i love it. I am trying to sell the kit if ur interested.

cr500afx · Aug 23, 2011

Turbo CRF450R Project

See KMS Performance Facebook page - Turbo Snowbike Project

http://www.facebook.com/kmsperformance?closeTheater=1#!/kmsperformance

mountainhorse · Aug 23, 2011

You know... I really dont lust for more power...

Just hot women and a good beer!!

BTW.... the Mtn Horse rips with the 450 under it... watched Allen rip up JH RMSHA course...no prob.

The ORIGINAL MH... OUT!!

KAWGRN · Aug 24, 2011

Im looking for a cheap husaberg 570 FI very unreliable fuel pumps but mabe worth a try or a KTM 950 super enduro???

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