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WyoBoy1000 · Feb 10, 2010

To All the people dogging on others not wanting to stick around, or the pi$$ing matches going on. It needs to stop, This site has great potential, why not try to convince them to stay(much easier and far more successful). I know if someone straight up calls me out there will be war, and only one winner will come out, on the other hand we can all win. We need to be the ones bringing others to the site as well.

If you haven't noticed, there have been some huge threats to our riding areas by the government trying to turn everything into wilderness. I think this site has the potential to be one of the leaders in helping us put a stop to it. I don't have time to do it myself and to me there is no price you can put on sledding.

Someone stated this is coming about because of the economy and business are trying new things, But they failed to realize that with the economy many are looking for cheaper option and turned to this site. Just like most dealers parts departments shot up in sales but they can't keep there mechanics busy because everyone is doing it there selfs. This has increased traffic and caused a higher demand.

If you think its all for profit. (If your not a capitalist, then you don't need the money anyway) What do you go to work for, anyone here that has a sled makes profit and I would say there's a good chunk of use that do pretty well at it to own our toys. Why would anyone run a business to loose money.

spook222 · Feb 10, 2010

^^^^my thoughts exactly! as far as on the edges rant that is

Idcatman3 · Feb 10, 2010

I've never found anywhere else that has the quality of info you can find here. I also paid my way, but I don't look at it as paying for info. I look at it much more like a cover charge. I'm paying to get in the door and hang out with people who know what they are talking about.

kane13 · Feb 10, 2010

I think the fact that this site was free made it what it was, if i would have had to pay from the beginning i don't know if i ever would have joined and i think any new members will get discouraged from joining as well. Hope it works out for Harris publishing but i am not sure it will i think if membership goes down too low they will lose the advertisers, its a big gamble but wtf its none of my concern. Like everyone else i have learn't lots on here and i thank you all and i will continue monitoring until the privilege is gone, Its seems we have to pay for everything we like these days sooner or later but it was nice to be able to have this for free while it lasted. There are other forums out there that are free and they are already starting to flourish, i found the one that i like so thats probably where i will be but thanks snowest if i miss ya too much i will just have to shoot ya 30 bucks no biggie, If you want to pay then pay if you don't then don't we all make our own choices in life choose wisely. Good Luck!!!

pernikm · Feb 10, 2010

This will be intersting. All of the people that say they are staying mention all the information they get. Let's face it, this site is has people that contibute and those that take. Sure it might be worth 10 bucks if you are a taker, But will the contibutors pay 10 dollars to contribute? I am not posting any more information unless I am paid for it.

Nubulin · Feb 10, 2010

I agree its lame they are charging. Sure they could do it all with ads, but they have chosen a membership model. I remember when everything was free on the internet. Unfortunately not any longer.

The bottom line for me is the $10 a year is worth continuing to be a member of this forum (right or wrong), so I just paid. Its lame, but I am over it.

The digital copy of SW mag was the clincher for me since that alone covers the $10 a year.

MTnickmck · Feb 11, 2010

I think that was SNOWEST's dillema, they couldn't cover their budget on ads alone...

Additional expenses were required to upgrade their business, and unfortunately ads could not cover this.

Options for SNOWEST are to increase costs of advertisements (most companies are cutting this marketing element so tough gamble) increase areas in which ads are functional or to find an additional source of revenue.

They chose the safest option and will probably keep 70+% of participants and make their business plan work.

I'm looking forward to some of the new options. I was about to pull the trigger on 2 of the mag offerings, which would've cost me about $30 per year. Now I get those along with more for $14? Not bad and I don't need the hard copy mag anyway.

Shwinecat · Feb 11, 2010

It truly is the cheapest education I have ever receieved. It has saved me many hassels or heads up. I would have had down time on sleds while in the mountains. One wasted day in the mountains will pay for the membership for the rest of my life.

BigRed118 · Feb 11, 2010

08nightfire said:
When it fades will I get a pro rated refund......

Christopher has actually stated that there is no current policy for refunds.

CATSLEDMAN1 · Feb 11, 2010

The Goose is gone

pay or not pay...........I may.

The loosers will be SNOWEST.......oldest story in bussiness, kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

very few evey heard of an obscure mtn snow magazine from a small idaho town.....still don't. But this forum has been a bigger success than their print !! So when you turn to milk it, the tit will run dry. too bad

Until then $10

backcountryislife · Feb 11, 2010

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Flange · Feb 11, 2010

backcountryislife said:
You have reached the limit of your Free Basic Member reading privileges. To continue reading this thread, please upgrade to Premium Member status.

Does this mean you're done? Seriously, could we be that lucky? I guess we'll find out.

tblotske · Feb 11, 2010

i have been a member since 1999 and this is just bull**** **** this sight

bigcat_ak · Feb 11, 2010

tblotske said:
i have been a member since 1999 and this is just bull**** **** this sight

Your rep. speaks volumes.

ndC7M8 · Feb 11, 2010

OnTheEdge said:
ahahaha
hahahahahahahahahhahahaha you think i dont live? you think my daddy pays for my chit... well you can go f right the hell off. im sick of you and ive only known you for 2 hours. I took out the loan for my first second and third sled, my dirtbike, paid for my pitbike in cash, my first truck second truck and my car. i blew a motor in my civic at 15 and $3000 later i swapped it by myself. I just hit a tree stump under the snow on my sled yesterday ripping the whole front end off, you think daddy is guna pay for that mistake? I dont think so. I pay for my own food at school everyday, my own gas to drive 30 miles to school everyday, my own clothes. Ive held a steady job since I was able to hold a job. So don't start buddy.

oh and congrats, you learned how to use the search bar.

everyone rags on me cause my age for money and the knowledge to do it. but im not the average 17 year old.

you coulda been humble about the situation like me i was to my point and done, but you took it to another level

That's a fawkload of stuff. your must work for your father

WyoBoy1000 · Feb 12, 2010

Flange said:
Does this mean you're done? Seriously, could we be that lucky? I guess we'll find out.

Come on.

Most of this bickering is coming from people with hardly any post and from many I have never got info out of. Weather you find backcountry helpfull or not he gives all the info he knows and puts it out there. More than I can say for some.

To add to that, it used to be to get someone practically swearing took quite a bit, its always been fairly clean and professional. Plenty of dog fights but not this outright f this crap, which I learn nothing from except your character and if you don't have leg to stand on, I doubt there will be much to learn.

BigRed118 · Feb 12, 2010

I would like to continue to help on this thread. But. because it is over 50 posts I can no longer see nor help. Good luck

SnoPro1000 · Feb 12, 2010

everyone is right,... this is stupid! your right knowledge doesn't come free,.. but its not right that snowest benefits from other peoples knowledge does Jim john get paid for the information that he posts? NO! his gotta pay to post it and read it!

ECott · Feb 12, 2010

just wanted to post to make sure i had the "Paid Premium Member" under my name lol

Flange · Feb 12, 2010

WyoBoy1000 said:
Come on.

Most of this bickering is coming from people with hardly any post and from many I have never got info out of. Weather you find backcountry helpfull or not he gives all the info he knows and puts it out there. More than I can say for some.

To add to that, it used to be to get someone practically swearing took quite a bit, its always been fairly clean and professional. Plenty of dog fights but not this outright f this crap, which I learn nothing from except your character and if you don't have leg to stand on, I doubt there will be much to learn.

All I'm say is "enough is enough". If you're not happy about paying Snowest to provide this tool that allows folks to share free information, fine...then say your piece and move on. Stop bringing it up on each and every post. If you can't see past the 50th post, or whatever it is, then pay $30 so you can, or keep your mouth shut and move on to these other free forums that everyone keeps talking about. Just stop whining about it....please!

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