Jake,
You have said it best and I agree with you 100%.Blunt and too the point,Couldn't of said it better myself.
Dave
RKT is a mod???
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Jake,
You have said it best and I agree with you 100%.Blunt and too the point,Couldn't of said it better myself.
Dave
Therein lies the WHOLE problem, they own the site, but the members that come here are the ones that provide the content, lose the learned members and why bother having the site. I don't want to have to go somewhere else to get the information that could be found here, but act like they're doing me a favor by having the site and color me gone. It was a great place and now all you hear senior member after senior member saying"oh yes I spend a lot less time there".
Why would anyone have a problem with a dealer being the mod of a state snow conditions? Freeagent sells sleds and parts from other manufactures. How could you promote that as a Mod in the Oregon section? She will do an outstanding job. Sometimes I think we all need to take a Chill Pill! JMO! Peace
Yea, apparently watching for bad posts in the Idaho section must take some special training.
And MR mn mod that doesn't get it. Go spend some time in the mod/perf section and read the bb vs pump gas turbo threads and you will under stand why a performance product dealer shouldn't be a mod on here. Putting them in the postition to pull competitors posts/mod them in any way shape or form shouldn't be allowed So you are saying that since they are in a position they WILL change competers posts? Wow, that is lame. The guy has done nothing wrong and you assume this will happen. Well you know what happens when you assume somthing
Well said!!!
Michelle and all the other vendors that want to be or are mods.....Thanks for all the help you do!!!!!
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Michelle, you will do a fine job as a mod. I don't think anyone has a problem with a person being a mod in a section about snow conditions, I love having you in there! Hey Girl you will do an outstanding job. there is a lot of Changes going on in here That I do not agree with, I think it should be kept clean for family use and keep it so all the older member can come in here for information on different topics and be able to have a laugh or two with our Friends, don't you dare give it up. stay with it. I think that you Michelle and all the other vendors a like that want to be or are currently mod's should remain mod's.
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Getting back to the original topic......
I have seen RKT take a lot of abuse on this forum and has been fair about his responses in almost all cases. I think this was a decent choice for moderator.
There is no reason to think that he will be a biased moderator of a sub-section that has nothing to do with performance. Guilty until proven innocent comes to mind??? How about you start a thread about their mod status after they have really screwed up, not before? If a vendor is a mod and abusing their powers to peddle their products, it will be found soon enough.
Some people on Snowest seem to have an axe to grind with almost every moderator or the choice of moderator.....deal with it and accept the fact that it is what it is. Starting a thread about it to make your opinion known, seems really petty to me.
How many times are we going to beat a dead horse?
NSC
I have seen RKT take a lot of abuse on this forum and has been fair about his responses in almost all cases. I think this was a decent choice for moderator.
There is no reason to think that he will be a biased moderator of a sub-section that has nothing to do with performance. Guilty until proven innocent comes to mind??? How about you start a thread about their mod status after they have really screwed up, not before? If a vendor is a mod and abusing their powers to peddle their products, it will be found soon enough.
Some people on Snowest seem to have an axe to grind with almost every moderator or the choice of moderator.....deal with it and accept the fact that it is what it is. Starting a thread about it to make your opinion known, seems really petty to me.
How many times are we going to beat a dead horse?
NSC
yep...no need to crap in a clean diaper...you may have to use it to blow your nose
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So I guess the Suggestions and User Feedback section is pretty much worthless if this is the attitude of the site administration.
My last question is: What does working on a sled, testing, R&D, and general snowmobile problem solving have to do with putting a post where it belongs or watching for unruly behavior? It sounds like my neighbors babysitter would be a better fit for the job. With all of this ground breaking snowmobile research that is being conducted by the moderators, I really don't see how you guys have time to deal with us little people putting posts in the wrong sections.
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My opinion is that there may be a conflict of interest if vendors/advertizers are selected as mods. I wouldn't accuse someone of loading the forums, or deleting "questionable" content posted by their competition at this stage in the game. And until such blatant shenanigans actually happen, I have to believe that such things wouldn't be a problem here (innocent until proven guilty).
But, how does it look to a newb when a they ask a question about which gizmo to buy and a MOD answers... "Buy this one, it's the best" without disclosing that the he is actually selling that particular gizmo? How would that same conversation look if the MOD instead answered, "I sell this gizmo that I think will fit your needs"? Or, what if the mod never said anything, but instead, other posters told the newb that they've tried the gizmo that the mod sells and it worked pretty good? Which of these scenarios feel more appropriate to you? I know which one seems more appropriate to me.
In any event, I'm sure that the SnoWest administration will be keeping a close eye on their mods to make sure they are being fair and even handed. Because if things get heavy handed, I'm pretty confident that people won't stick around long.
But, how does it look to a newb when a they ask a question about which gizmo to buy and a MOD answers... "Buy this one, it's the best" without disclosing that the he is actually selling that particular gizmo? How would that same conversation look if the MOD instead answered, "I sell this gizmo that I think will fit your needs"? Or, what if the mod never said anything, but instead, other posters told the newb that they've tried the gizmo that the mod sells and it worked pretty good? Which of these scenarios feel more appropriate to you? I know which one seems more appropriate to me.
In any event, I'm sure that the SnoWest administration will be keeping a close eye on their mods to make sure they are being fair and even handed. Because if things get heavy handed, I'm pretty confident that people won't stick around long.
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I'm confoosed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0I6mhZ5wMw
No,....Really.
Can I be the Snowhawk moderator?
"This message is hidden because snowhawkaddict is on your ignore list."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0I6mhZ5wMw
I am sure there is a person or two of on here that are mod`s that would love to put some of there ideas for that great product they have always wanted to make or have a chance to sell or service they can provide on here for a living or a few extra bucks or some other site.
So if one of us mods who are NOT Vendors Now or sell things on here have an awesome reputation for being a fair and reliable mod for years and happens to get a big break to have the chance to put that idea or product up for market years after previously being a mod and that product takes off and becomes a sucess like RKT product are of anyone else in that matter would that mean that person could not be trusted or eligably to be a mod any longer cause now they are venders or sell products? I wouldn`t beleive so.
I have a few ideas and would like to put them up for sale on hear and would hope they become successful, but I wouldn`t want everyone to think cause I make some coin or offer service on here that I wouldn`t be able to make good desicions or be a mod any longer.
Darren
So if one of us mods who are NOT Vendors Now or sell things on here have an awesome reputation for being a fair and reliable mod for years and happens to get a big break to have the chance to put that idea or product up for market years after previously being a mod and that product takes off and becomes a sucess like RKT product are of anyone else in that matter would that mean that person could not be trusted or eligably to be a mod any longer cause now they are venders or sell products? I wouldn`t beleive so.
I have a few ideas and would like to put them up for sale on hear and would hope they become successful, but I wouldn`t want everyone to think cause I make some coin or offer service on here that I wouldn`t be able to make good desicions or be a mod any longer.
Darren
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That would be why I added the part about "until somebody decides to do something different". However, I will pretty much blanketly state that ranting and raving with a very poorly arranged argument is not going to attract the heads at snowest's attention. I guess right now I dont quite see the big issue with the new format?? Sure, its a little more cluttered but other than that??
You are right, the user feedback section should be fair game and im sorry if I offended anyone by saying to get used to it. Unfortunatly, if you want something to be changed my first piece of advice would be to do something other than whine about who all is a mod. Then go from there.
My last question is: What does working on a sled, testing, R&D, and general snowmobile problem solving have to do with putting a post where it belongs or watching for unruly behavior? It sounds like my neighbors babysitter would be a better fit for the job. With all of this ground breaking snowmobile research that is being conducted by the moderators, I really don't see how you guys have time to deal with us little people putting posts in the wrong sections.
Did you not read the post?? You must have missed the last part. I said the main purpose of the mod is to provide new information and keep their section full of information rather than having the forums fill up with garbage. Now, explain to me how your "neighbors babysitter" is going to come up with any worthwhile information or questions for the forum??
I didnt mean to upset anyone. But getting down on a MOD before he does anything wrong is a total bunch of BS. If he screws up badly, tar and feather him. Until he does, give it a rest. Please.
Jake
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LOL thats great.
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Well her Dad is and old RMSHA racer and owns a local performance shop. She rides an IQR turbo that the two of them built together. She helps in his porting shop and we have had long conversations about port timing and fluid dynamics in Big Bore motors. They are doing extensive research on port angles for turbo applications. I think she would be a great addition to the forum!
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That is a good post !
As I said before, I am one of the longest surviving members of this site. (an elder) Here a year or two longer than Scott even.
I don't hardly show up here any more at all. Not even to lurk
All I wanted to do was help SnoWest out
The trap door was dropped and left me swinging by a noose before I even got a chance.
I have moved on to other sites with my humor and techno knowledge
Lurk some in the Dakota section to see what is up with our sled club and bs a little.
Other than that, do not contrib here any longer
Crystal ball readers got what they want... a win
I feel sorry for you mods who go under attack on here
nuff said
~ Gimpster ~
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Well holy cow!! Not gonna lie you caught me out of left field with that one!! Get her on here for sure!!
Jake
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So why is it that you have decided to move to other sites just out of curiosity?
Jake
ok...i for one want the expertise on this forum...and alot of these guys have forgotton more then we will ever know...and guess what...believe it or not alot of these guys that work with these sleds in aftermarket are not making the money you think they are...the do it because they LOVE THE SPORT..!!!..i cruise all the aftermarket guys and know the products and arguements they all make...we all can make a pretty good informed decision ourselves...and we all as well would know if any mod...aftermarket field or retired grocery packer was stepping out of bounds...then the action can be taken...but for now...i joined this forum for the average guys views and the aftermarket guys expertise...
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