Have turbo pc ??? I don't see much lately

Bacon · Dec 1, 2015

WyoBoy1000 said:
Who says I'm not? See all these ASSumptions running around.

Did you really thank yourself for that post! That's taking it to a new level, lol

Then find the closest turbo builder that's sells more than two kits a year and go get it put on. There are no secrets in the turbo world. It all comes down to if you can tune. You have had a turbo sled. Why make this so difficult.

Hardass · Dec 1, 2015

Im pretty new to the forced air circle but its been around for some time,the motors have not really changed that much but what has changed is the tuning and by tuning i mean fuel and the routing of the moving air. Its seems to me that low boost light weights and good tuning are key to quick responce. The more boost the heavier the weights to more it takes to get it moving. Why does a super charger need a innercooler at low moderate boost? do they build more heat than say a turbo at the same psi?

tundramonkey · Dec 1, 2015

Hardass said:
Im pretty new to the forced air circle but its been around for some time,the motors have not really changed that much but what has changed is the tuning and by tuning i mean fuel and the routing of the moving air. Its seems to me that low boost light weights and good tuning are key to quick responce. The more boost the heavier the weights to more it takes to get it moving. Why does a super charger need a innercooler at low moderate boost? do they build more heat than say a turbo at the same psi?

I don't believe the first round of SC had intercoolers. Then they started with the Air to Air intercooler to lower the charge temps to make more HP at the same boost level. Now they are running Water to Air intercooler to drop the charge temps even more.

I don't know if the SC heats the charge temp more than a turbo or not.

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carlc · Dec 1, 2015

Would you rather climb a mountain breathing 70* air or 220? Which would your lungs last longer with and which carries more power? The colder more dense air obviously. We did some testing on a nob intercooler 2860 kit on a 2012 pc and after 3 pulls the intake temps would climb to 220 easy. The water air seems to be a more consistent and cooler charge of air than my air to air last year, which result in more consistent tuning.

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Iceman56 · Dec 1, 2015

WYO you should get a hold of Bryce at Turbo Performance

WyoBoy1000 · Dec 2, 2015

Tried Bryce, haven't got ahold of him yet.

Carl, your showing your cards. We have been running 2871 to 3076 s with different setups to keep Temps down with out a intercooler. See with a turbo, and the right setup you don't need it.

carlc · Dec 2, 2015

Interesting. Never knew a larger turbo could create less lag. Seems opposite to me. Good luck with your search, I will be out riding my 1 lb of boost at engagement, intercooled, pull and go supercharger for the year, PM me if you open your mind a little.

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Snowmow · Dec 2, 2015

carlc said:
Interesting. Never knew a larger turbo could create less lag. Seems opposite to me. Good luck with your search, I will be out riding my 1 lb of boost at engagement, intercooled, pull and go supercharger for the year, PM me if you open your mind a little.

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Supercharger isn't the only setup that have boost at engagement. I've seen turbos with 1-2 psi at engagement.

A.ekstrom · Dec 2, 2015

How often do you guys ride your sled at engagement ? .. :face-icon-small-win

Fired up my TSS Turbo for the first time a few days ago. Once i get it going i´ll let you know more.

ACMtnCat · Dec 2, 2015

carlc said:
track speed is around 65, on a gps calibrated gauge.

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Curious how you measure track speed with a gps gauge. ??????

carlc · Dec 2, 2015

ACMtnCat said:
Curious how you measure track speed with a gps gauge. ??????

Its the nextstagegauges.com gauge reflash. You can calibrate the speedo for gearing/driver changes. Among a ton of other features such as a/f ratio and boost gauges right on the factory gauge. They are sweet!

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WyoBoy1000 · Dec 3, 2015

carlc said:
Interesting. Never knew a larger turbo could create less lag. Seems opposite to me. Good luck with your search, I will be out riding my 1 lb of boost at engagement, intercooled, pull and go supercharger for the year, PM me if you open your mind a little.

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When you show me something more suited for my style or give me a deal I can't refuse.

I'm open minded about it, and if you where you would understand is not about that it's about the fact I have something else in mind. Take your own advise

WyoBoy1000 · Dec 3, 2015

I've spent years developing items to make things work, now they are proven, yes I've always had my ways that some disregard but I also have the results and facts proving that when I'm on to something it's not just a simple thought.

Iceman56 · Dec 3, 2015

First off I have to agree with these guys, I think for your riding style and where you ride the super would work the best for you WYO. You said it yourself you don't need anymore then 200hp, at 10,000+ft elevation I don't think there is anyway around turbo lag. But yeah I can understand the price point...

Clarc when did the supers go back up to $7,500? I thought they were $6,500

With that being said, for conversation sake what do you have planned WYO? Are you really thinking a big turbo? Seems a lot of guys tried to push that theory a couple years ago and now those same guys are running 2860-2863 size turbos, must be for a reason.

I personally would never run without an intercooler unless its really low boost. I am hard on the throttle, making a lot of back to back runs, or long runs occasionally. I guess if all your gonna do is short burst tree ride non intercooler with the right tunning and good fuel will prolly work fine. But that one time you make a long pull just remember you might eat a set of reeds. I guess if you building it yourself though not sure how your gonna do an intercooler.

If you go non intercooled are you gonna have a big air box, small air box, or some nice mandel bent piping right into the throttle bodies?

TheJett29 · Dec 4, 2015

Price of SC is $7500 plus a few add ons you should get. I would call it almost $8,000. The price hopefully will come down even as soon as next year.

WyoBoy1000 · Dec 6, 2015

TheJett29 said:
Price of SC is $7500 plus a few add ons you should get. I would call it almost $8,000. The price hopefully will come down even as soon as next year.

Pretty sure a turbo is lighter to

BigFish BC · Dec 6, 2015

this is a boost it kit but they only run water to air so you probably wouldnt want one,but you wont find a turbo that runs as consistant as one running water to air.
this one is running 6-7lbs boost garret 2860 with billet gsx wheel,water to air.
racingstation now sells them in the usa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loOua8bB6QM

badaltitude · Dec 12, 2015

Fwiw i run a boondockers kit at 8.5 lbs. Big horns and cooke. Did my own headlight delete and a 3 5" snorkle. The snorkle seemed to make for quicker responce. Also did a tki belt drive and team tied. After some clutching and fuel growing pains i would say its a real solid set up. I ride tight trees and creeks and am fairly aggressive...at least in my mind lol. 2860 non intercooled.

Turbocat · Dec 13, 2015

OVS is still in business.... Here's my 2015 PC800 on pump gas running 9lbs... great bottom end response

knifedge · Dec 13, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WuwuXyuyfEw

--"Power pulse" compressed air to get rid of turbo lag by Volvo

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