Sell the M1000 and buy a track?

HiWaYman92 · Jul 24, 2009

So I just bought an 03 CRF 450R for summer riding. I am new to dirt biking, but I think I am catching on just fine. I have an 08 M1000 162, and rode with a 450 with a 2moto Radix track last spring. The bike whooped our sleds. This was on a set up springish day. I am sure my sled would do better in deep deep powder days, but you only get so many of them each year. If I buy a track, I can have 1 toy that I can use yaer around. What do you bike guys think of these tracks, and how much are you paying for them? Also, any suggestions are welcome.

Twostroke · Jul 24, 2009

If you want to ride alot and hard with a snowbike bit I would get a bike with a more reliable valve train, imho. For the price($4,500 is what I saw) of the kit's you can buy a nice sled and be able to have to hobbys in stead of just one. But personally I don't think that a snow bike would scratch the itch that snowmobiles do, nothing like a all or bust sidehill! I ride and race motorcycles offroad and I wouldn't even consider a snowbike, I snowmobile because it's different and can be more challenaging in the situations I get myself in.

Just my opinion.

off road rider · Jul 25, 2009

Twostroke said:
If you want to ride alot and hard with a snowbike bit I would get a bike with a more reliable valve train, imho. For the price($4,500 is what I saw) of the kit's you can buy a nice sled and be able to have to hobbys in stead of just one. But personally I don't think that a snow bike would scratch the itch that snowmobiles do, nothing like a all or bust sidehill! I ride and race motorcycles offroad and I wouldn't even consider a snowbike, I snowmobile because it's different and can be more challenaging in the situations I get myself in.

Just my opinion.

If you havent tried it how would you know??? You are correct on the CRF valve issues.
that being said.. I dont think you would be happy with only the bike kit. they are alot of fun in the right conditions, much more than a sled, but there are limitations..deep powder and steep hills are a bad combo for the bikes...

HiWaYman92 · Jul 26, 2009

J&L Snowhawk · Jul 27, 2009

riding type

It really comes down to the type of riding you do and the terrain. I have rode both and had both, now just the hawks and bikes. The bikes are best for lower speed tight technical riding. They rip on the trails too, but if you like to ride wide open areas alot stick to a sled or hawk. I think you can find used exporer kits for around 2K and Some new ones for 3K. These can be used on any bike with only the purchase of a 250.oo or so dollar adapter kit. The 2moto kits are around 45oo.oo new and are model specific. I love the one skis and plan on adding a kit to a crf250r that I have at the moment.

adrenalinejky · Jul 28, 2009

HiWaYman92 said:
So I just bought an 03 CRF 450R for summer riding. I am new to dirt biking, but I think I am catching on just fine. I have an 08 M1000 162, and rode with a 450 with a 2moto Radix track last spring. The bike whooped our sleds. This was on a set up springish day. I am sure my sled would do better in deep deep powder days, but you only get so many of them each year. If I buy a track, I can have 1 toy that I can use yaer around. What do you bike guys think of these tracks, and how much are you paying for them? Also, any suggestions are welcome.

The CRF450 is a good bike, but the valve train is a problem on those. I have a Explorer kit on a KTM530 and it works flawless. It was less expensive than the 2 Moto and seemed to work great. During the Hawk fest, a bunch of Moto guys went exploring, and we found some serious deep powder. It was probally the most fun I had all year. They work awesome in the Deep. Just not so good on the steep. They side hill for as long as you want. And in the trees are amazing. You can expect to pay 3,000.00 retail for a Explorer. And they will fit on any bike with a diffrent fit kit. Not sure how much the other kits cost right now. Good luck...

snowhawkaddict · Jul 28, 2009

Keepin the Oneskis rolling instead of parked.

I think some of these may be dealers, at least the price is retail.
http://denver.craigslist.org/rvs/1285178612.html

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/rvs/1256961175.html

http://denver.craigslist.org/mcy/1281759231.html

http://provo.craigslist.org/mcy/1281340615.html
Same one?
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=4922710&cat

HiWaYman92 · Jul 28, 2009

I think I am more interested in the 2 moto, it is 30 some pounds lighter, and looks to be engineered better (in my opinion by looking at pictures.) Anyone have a used one for sale that will fit my 450? Also, if I end up really liking the snow bike thing, I will probably buy a new honda 450 efi next year, will the track fit on it too, or will they be different?

off road rider · Jul 29, 2009

HiWaYman92 said:
I think I am more interested in the 2 moto, it is 30 some pounds lighter, and looks to be engineered better (in my opinion by looking at pictures.) Anyone have a used one for sale that will fit my 450? Also, if I end up really liking the snow bike thing, I will probably buy a new honda 450 efi next year, will the track fit on it too, or will they be different?

Cant speak for the 2010 Honda, but a buddy swapped his 2moto from a Honda 450 to a new zuki 450 with only a minimal amount of parts, bushings etc.. The difference in the 2kits is easy to spot with them sitting side by side,
they both have their strong points. The Explorer works great on trails as the front ski makes it a much more stable platform. In the rough, or over jumps/ whoops the 2moto kicks its butt.

adrenalinejky · Jul 29, 2009

off road rider said:
Cant speak for the 2010 Honda, but a buddy swapped his 2moto from a Honda 450 to a new zuki 450 with only a minimal amount of parts, bushings etc.. The difference in the 2kits is easy to spot with them sitting side by side,
they both have their strong points. The Explorer works great on trails as the front ski makes it a much more stable platform. In the rough, or over jumps/ whoops the 2moto kicks its butt.

Lets not get into this again. The 2 Moto kits do a little better in the rough. the Explorer kits do a little better in the deep just chugging along. Overall they are both great kits that deserve a lot of kudo's for just being there. I wish I could have tried your kit at Hawk fest. But you bailed on us when we got into the nasty stuff. I would have loved to seen that thing in action. we were in the very deep and kinda steep white stuff. You missed it... Maybe next year???? I think the perfect combo would be the 2 Moto rear and the Explorer front. On a turbo anything. O Yea lets make the retail price $2500.00 that would be perfect.

Twostroke · Jul 29, 2009

off road rider said:
If you havent tried it how would you know??? You are correct on the CRF valve issues.
that being said.. I dont think you would be happy with only the bike kit. they are alot of fun in the right conditions, much more than a sled, but there are limitations..deep powder and steep hills are a bad combo for the bikes...

I have no want to ride one, if I want to ride a bike it will be in dirt, on tight, steep singletrack and plus the two draw backs of snowbikes are my favorite things, steep and deep. If they aren't good off trail, then where do you ride them, on trail? I would imagine riding a snowbike on a snowmobile trail would be just like riding a dirt bike on quad trails, boring or you have to go 70mph+ just to be mildly challenaged, let alone worring about yahoo's hitting you head on, thanks but no thanks.

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Dobber1 · Jul 30, 2009

Twostroke said:
I have no want to ride one, if I want to ride a bike it will be in dirt, on tight, steep singletrack and plus the two draw backs of snowbikes are my favorite things, steep and deep. If they aren't good off trail, then where do you ride them, on trail? I would imagine riding a snowbike on a snowmobile trail would be just like riding a dirt bike on quad trails, boring or you have to go 70mph+ just to be mildly challenaged, let alone worring about yahoo's hitting you head on, thanks but no thanks.

:face-icon-small-coo

I think your closet door has louvres...?

adrenalinejky · Jul 30, 2009

Twostroke said:
I have no want to ride one, if I want to ride a bike it will be in dirt, on tight, steep singletrack and plus the two draw backs of snowbikes are my favorite things, steep and deep. If they aren't good off trail, then where do you ride them, on trail? I would imagine riding a snowbike on a snowmobile trail would be just like riding a dirt bike on quad trails, boring or you have to go 70mph+ just to be mildly challenaged, let alone worring about yahoo's hitting you head on, thanks but no thanks.

:face-icon-small-coo

Your way way off. I also race in the summer full time. Harescrambles and enduros. To tell you the truth I would rather ride my snowbike. Its a boondocking fool. You wouldn't and couldn't catch me on a sled in the woods. In fact my challenge has been if you can follow me for 30 seconds I will give you a kit.:face-icon-small-sho Plus who says they dont work in the deep. Thats were they shine. The will climb, just not straight up. I can out side hill any sled in any terrain. Try one before you think you know how they work, you will be suprised.

snowmobiler · Jul 30, 2009

not bashing but id like to see a video of a bike going uphill in deep pow

Beeline · Jul 30, 2009

Here we go again.

off road rider · Jul 30, 2009

adrenalinejky said:
Lets not get into this again. The 2 Moto kits do a little better in the rough. the Explorer kits do a little better in the deep just chugging along. Overall they are both great kits that deserve a lot of kudo's for just being there. I wish I could have tried your kit at Hawk fest. But you bailed on us when we got into the nasty stuff. I would have loved to seen that thing in action. we were in the very deep and kinda steep white stuff. You missed it... Maybe next year???? I think the perfect combo would be the 2 Moto rear and the Explorer front. On a turbo anything. O Yea lets make the retail price $2500.00 that would be perfect.

Sorry I didnt mean to be bashing your kit.Dont think I did?? The day I "Bailed" after leaving you guys in the whoops was a mechanical failure on my KTM.. You guys left me there to limp my bike back after an hour on the hill. Guys I ride with would have tried to figure out what happened?? I think both bike kits are good, the combo has been done and works fantastic..
I have several days of riding with and on both kits.. You are a talented rider and should try the other offerings, you might think a bit different.

Twostroke said:
I have no want to ride one, if I want to ride a bike it will be in dirt, on tight, steep singletrack and plus the two draw backs of snowbikes are my favorite things, steep and deep. If they aren't good off trail, then where do you ride them, on trail? I would imagine riding a snowbike on a snowmobile trail would be just like riding a dirt bike on quad trails, boring or you have to go 70mph+ just to be mildly challenaged, let alone worring about yahoo's hitting you head on, thanks but no thanks.

:face-icon-small-coo

Why are you on here then?? not interested thats cool..Leave the fun to us..

triple7 · Jul 30, 2009

Not trying to hijack the thread but I use to be a non believer about the bikes...now I will be using one full time for the nasty boondocking I love to do.

I am selling the 2moto kits...They are a great kit that is well engineered and seems to work great. They are lighter than the competitors kits and that was enough to tip me towards them.

I will make the BEST deals on 2moto kits. Contact me for pricing!!

Jake

adrenalinejky · Jul 31, 2009

off road rider said:
Sorry I didnt mean to be bashing your kit.Dont think I did?? The day I "Bailed" after leaving you guys in the whoops was a mechanical failure on my KTM.. You guys left me there to limp my bike back after an hour on the hill. Guys I ride with would have tried to figure out what happened?? I think both bike kits are good, the combo has been done and works fantastic..
I have several days of riding with and on both kits.. You are a talented rider and should try the other offerings, you might think a bit different.

Why are you on here then?? not interested thats cool..Leave the fun to us..

Didn't know you broke. and I remember us stopping and asking if you needed any help and you said no. Sorry if we left you... I do want to try the other kits. Thats why I was bummed when you weren't there in the fun stuff. O well maybe next year. I am only loyal to a product that works good. I have no problems switching it up. I have had every kind of bike. They all have there downfalls. I really really want to try the 2 Moto. Yours is the only one Iv'e seen. It didn't seem to work any better than our kit. I dunno. I have nothing but visual to base it on.

adrenalinejky · Jul 31, 2009

snowmobiler said:
not bashing but id like to see a video of a bike going uphill in deep pow

I have no videos of such things. Mostly cause I'm in areas where sleds can't get to.

Really Really. I met 2 kids out in Crested Butte this last winter. They were saying that they thought the bike wouldnt work. I gave them the same story as everyone. follow me for 30 seconds and I will give you a kit. There eyes light up and they were thinking a new free toy. So off we went. I bombed off the main trail into some untouched snow. Side hilled a little bit through some trees and came back down. I turned around thinking that wasn't to hard. They were no where to be found. I went back and they were both very stuck. First thing they said was. That was sick. By the end of the day they both said they would not come back unless they were on a bike. True story...

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