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Lets hear all the crazy ideas in the back of everyone's heads. Personally I think a 500-800cc v twin smoker fuel injected with a cvt, custom frame with the track coming under your feet would be the ticket. 137+ track could be similar in overall length to a kit 120. Have heard some rumors that BRC has this motor ready to go for whoever wants to make a production bike, but who knows. I think a 100 hp and 300lbs would be great but likely out of reach for a home build. I enjoy the snohawk concept but the geometry just looks really off to me. I have been considering if a polaris atv 400cc 2 stroke would be worth messing with. some of the drag racing sites claim they get 75 hp with a 440 BB and supporting mods but I wonder if it will hold together. If it would I imagine the narrow cvt motor would be an interesting option. Anyways Lets hear everyone's thoughts!
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Lets hear all the crazy ideas in the back of everyone's heads. Personally I think a 500-800cc v twin smoker fuel injected with a cvt, custom frame with the track coming under your feet would be the ticket. 137+ track could be similar in overall length to a kit 120. Have heard some rumors that BRC has this motor ready to go for whoever wants to make a production bike, but who knows. I think a 100 hp and 300lbs would be great but likely out of reach for a home build. I enjoy the snohawk concept but the geometry just looks really off to me. I have been considering if a polaris atv 400cc 2 stroke would be worth messing with. some of the drag racing sites claim they get 75 hp with a 440 BB and supporting mods but I wonder if it will hold together. If it would I imagine the narrow cvt motor would be an interesting option. Anyways Lets hear everyone's thoughts!
I looked into the Polaris 400 2stroke also.
Problem is they were notoriously unreliable in stock form (42 ish hp) and modding them made them worse.

The union bay racing 450 single 2t cvt snowbike looks like it would be a good test mule for viability.

I think the 600 vtwin chilling at brc needs to be persued.
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Ok hear me out. Take a cat laydown twin (intake, exh on the same side), put a belt drive on the PTO, which drives a CVT mounted on a shaft just behind the engine. The CVT belt center line would be in line with the center of the engine. Secondary also in the center with a normal jackshaft to chaincase setup. Pull start could be mounted on the primary shaft as well, to narrow it up further. Engine mounted on top of tunnel where a gas tank would normally sit on a sled. Exhaust up and over the top.

Would be a long /tall but narrow setup. I think?

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Ok hear me out. Take a cat laydown twin (intake, exh on the same side), put a belt drive on the PTO, which drives a CVT mounted on a shaft just behind the engine. The CVT belt center line would be in line with the center of the engine. Secondary also in the center with a normal jackshaft to chaincase setup. Pull start could be mounted on the primary shaft as well, to narrow it up further. Engine mounted on top of tunnel where a gas tank would normally sit on a sled. Exhaust up and over the top.

Would be a long /tall but narrow setup. I think?
Another member here is doing something very similar to what you propose.
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Lets hear all the crazy ideas in the back of everyone's heads. Personally I think a 500-800cc v twin smoker fuel injected with a cvt, custom frame with the track coming under your feet would be the ticket. 137+ track could be similar in overall length to a kit 120. Have heard some rumors that BRC has this motor ready to go for whoever wants to make a production bike, but who knows. I think a 100 hp and 300lbs would be great but likely out of reach for a home build. I enjoy the snohawk concept but the geometry just looks really off to me. I have been considering if a polaris atv 400cc 2 stroke would be worth messing with. some of the drag racing sites claim they get 75 hp with a 440 BB and supporting mods but I wonder if it will hold together. If it would I imagine the narrow cvt motor would be an interesting option. Anyways Lets hear everyone's thoughts!
Sounds great! One problem, such an engine doesn’t only vTwins are heavy 4 stroke street bike motors. But, keep thinking. That one guy that grafted two cr500 into a v twin 1000 seemed like a cool, and redonkulous, build.
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Another member here is doing something very similar to what you propose.
Sweet. Any more info on it?
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Sweet. Any more info on it?
Not yet. He will probably chime in here at some point. I don’t want to blab about his project ideas, but they are definitely creative.

The biggest challenge that I see is keeping the bike narrow. I’ve noticed that in tight quarters the drag on the sides of the bike is what leads to trenched stucks so making the bike any bit wider at all is just going to make that a whole lot worse. Of course that’s only in deep snow, but that’s where we want that extra HP so? That is the big issue.
We have a lot of room for things to live where previously there were wheels however. Mainly in the front by the exhaust. If that area could be utilized for HP gains in stead of widening then that’s the direction I’d like to see us go. But, regrettably, that engine just doesn’t doesnt live on earth in any kind of realistic scope.

I’m tempted to fly to Europe and find a damn maico 700 engine somewhere lol.

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