No kit. There are quite a few pre built options out there for Ucaps
this is one of the ones we were testing
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Eaton/XVM-16R2656-R/?qs=JUaLNLaZVXYJ%2fQBssI7LKw%3d%3d
Looking for more info on Shot start
- Thread starter Barcode
- Start date
No kit. There are quite a few pre built options out there for Ucaps
this is one of the ones we were testing
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Eaton/XVM-16R2656-R/?qs=JUaLNLaZVXYJ%2fQBssI7LKw%3d%3d
Thanks Dave.
Hopefully someone will have a idea at the sneak peek show. Our local one is this coming weekend.
If not. If possible is there someone you could ask? Or point me in the right direction of someone that would know?
Cheers
B
I believe it's more like 10 lbs. Remember Shot eliminates the starter motor. The reason they didn't use light wieght batteries is likely be cause of cost and burst energy while caps will be much higher..
Assuming the Doo standard starter system weighs similar to the Poo, it would be about 30 lbs. The Doo battery I have weighs 14.5 lbs. The Ultra-capacitor we use weighs 2.5 lbs. And I heard the Shot adds 2.5 lbs over pull start only.
doo e/s is roughly 22lbs..
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How many consecutive starts can you do with the shot system?
Like barcode is doing in this video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=zc6nDQ1MQEk
Like barcode is doing in this video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=zc6nDQ1MQEk
Capacitor
Capacitors will surface discharge into the air - even not hooked up to a load. They hold electricity directly, not the chemical reaction to make electricity (lead-acid) like a battery.
Capacitors will surface discharge into the air - even not hooked up to a load. They hold electricity directly, not the chemical reaction to make electricity (lead-acid) like a battery.
we did 11 in jackson with the demo, it was a warm day and sled was warmed up. you would never do this though. You hold the button till it cranks over so it is not like e-start where you hit the button and sometimes it does not fully light up, then you hit the button again and it goes, that does not happen with shot.
With 850 e-start, you have only the starter and battery. Starter mounts to motor. Compared to poo, no added primary ring gear and the heavy steel poo bat box and frame are eliminated, starter is smaller. One heavy kit on a poo. If you want to not pull start an 850 cold at the lightest weight, a LiPo with e-start on the 850 is the best option.
Shot has to start the motor within a 1/3 revolution or so from my understanding. This would be difficult on a cold start, so charging the cap externally may not be an option. If it was, with a LiPo jump pack through a port, you could possibly be able to cold start in a trailer (or anywhere if the carried the jump pack with you). I'd guess this will evolve more, tho.
Shot has to start the motor within a 1/3 revolution or so from my understanding. This would be difficult on a cold start, so charging the cap externally may not be an option. If it was, with a LiPo jump pack through a port, you could possibly be able to cold start in a trailer (or anywhere if the carried the jump pack with you). I'd guess this will evolve more, tho.
Who cares, if your not man enough to start it with a rope each morning, you are not man enough to ride it. My wife on the other hand can't seem to pull the rope fast enough to fire up her sled. For her e-start is nice.
Thats pretty awesome Dave. Just goes to show you how little energy the new 850 takes to start. On our 13 Xm with estart it looks like the actual starter motor pulls much more energy than it does to just turn the crank 1/3 turn.
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I have a bad right shoulder but can ride the hell of of my sled. According to you I'm not man enough but sounds like you are too stupid too see beyond your limited IQ! Idiot!
Didn't riders in the "old days" say that reverse wasn't needed and you should be "man enough" to pick up the rear of the sled and turn it around?
I am surprised that BRP didn't offer a capacitor charger for overnight to avoid the first pull. Barcode was using an RC battery to do this which obviously works. Maybe a MY2019 option ha ha.
It does raise some interesting options. Since the super capacitor can be charged to 16 volts, you could charge it to the max so when you hit the start button, your starter/magneto would probably receive 14 - 15 volts (after cable losses) which would allow the engine to turn over fast, thus improving your chances for a start the first time....
My guess is you will see some variants of this technology on all sleds before too long.
Very cool
OTM
It does raise some interesting options. Since the super capacitor can be charged to 16 volts, you could charge it to the max so when you hit the start button, your starter/magneto would probably receive 14 - 15 volts (after cable losses) which would allow the engine to turn over fast, thus improving your chances for a start the first time....
My guess is you will see some variants of this technology on all sleds before too long.
Very cool
OTM
Sounds good in theory but each 850 motor is burdened with extra parts and weight whether it has e-start or not. I don't buy my sleds with it so I'd rather not have the extra but that's IMO
Wow, someone's feelings got hurt! Like I said, Man Up!
M
It's 2lbs. If it don't work at some point the pull chord is already there.
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